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Originally posted by nathan_nall View Post
I'm not sure about post-Mosley, but for both the ODLH, JMM, and Mosley fights, they told Floyd what they would pay him and it was GBP who signed the checks. That is documented because part of what started so much of Floyd's hate for Oscar is he felt Oscar wasn't paying up all of Floyd's guaranteed PPV % and the same came up after Mosley. Now it is true that Floyd got the MUCH bigger cut in the JMM and Mosley fights.
And that Haymon and Ellerby handle the business side of it is exactly what I meant. Obviously they aren't sparring for Floyd or fighting for him. But his fighting isn't what gets him paid. It's the contracts and the smooth talking lawyers that get him paid. There are a HELL of a lot of really talented fighters out there that can't pay their own mortgages because they don't have solid people taking care of the business side of things. In fact, Pacquiao might be the perfect example. Someone who is a small step below Floyd (who at his prime would probably have beaten Floyd) but can't manage his personal/professional life enough to stay in the black.
I'm TOTALLY on board with the belief that Pacquiao leaving Arum and signing with Haymon would be the best thing for him. But the WHOLE point of this thread and my posts is this... it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference! Floyd is not fighting Pacquiao because he is an Arum fighter.... Floyd is not fighting Pacquiao because Pacquiao is PACQUIAO!
He should still sign with Haymon and retire even wealthier than he is, but he will never step foot in the ring with Floyd. If he signed with Haymon, Floyd would just say "he doesn't belong in the ring with me" or "he's not on my level" and he'd say it... and say it... and say it... until the years and fights passed by... Pacquiao is spent.... and he's finally proved himself right.
As far as the money goes -- Floyd Mayweather had to pay the purse for Mosley too. After Floyd left Top Rank, that's when Haymon and Ellerbe decided the next business move -- to control everything surrounding his fights including the promotion. So unless it's against a guy like Oscar and/or Pacquaio who have A LOT of leverage, Floyd is controlling everything basically. When Floyd wanted Pacquaio to just take $40 million, and he'd wire half of it upfront -- that is exactly what he does regularly with his opponents. But that just won't work with guys who have a lot of leverage like Pacquaio.
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Are y'all kidding Mayweather would tear "The Original Punching Bag" Magarito a new universe. Nothing new about any of this..get a life people
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Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes View PostMight be too late now for Pacquiao but he should have worked with Haymon a long time ago
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Between the lines
So between the lines hes saying
"if i had listened Bob and fought Margarito, i would have lost, i send Bob to hell and from then on, i have taken only calculated risks, and this is the formula to be the PPV king, all other fighters are fools"
Well, all the time we hear the story of the promoter ruining the boxer, i guess im a mayweather fan for standing up to the system and creating his own world, in that aspect hes the GOAT, but ... hes a coward for ducking PACMAN:bukkake:
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For Floyd this is a double-edged sword, he doesn't fight Manny and he will not have to deal with Arum, but he tarnishes his legend/reputation when he is discussed where he belongs among the greats because he did not fight Manny the other great fighter of this era.
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