Kovalev's manager: "Sergey is not a racist."

[takingaim]

Can people just let this **** go and move on? I am black and I really don't even care that much. People act like this guy is so important that his views and opinions should matter. I can understand if he was at the level of Floyd or Manny and even a Ward or Bradley but he is just some hype job. If he grows into some big star then I can assure you these things will come to surface and he will have to explain himself more properly. I do find it odd how some people in this thread are simply just brushing it off but as it is right now its nothing to be concerned about. Hes not a star and hes just one person. And even if he is what is being implied I rather him be honest about it then being a pretender.

Calling him a hype job proves you're upset. And you contradict yourself some more by saying you don't really care & people should just "move on", then go on to imply that you would care, only if he was a bigger star, as if that makes any ****ing difference.

And Bradley's NOT a hype job?

[J The UnBiased]

That's just it tho...no-one would give a s#it, would they? They'd just think he was an idiot.

Can you not understand the irony of you posting that comment?

You're right, no one would care. Just like no one cared when Floyd went on his racist rant against Pacquiao. I obviously live in fantasy land where blacks receive the same level of scrutiny as others. What the hell was I thinking.

[J The UnBiased]

Here's the money quote


He says everyday he likes these black people less and less as if it's an ever continuing process. As in everyday he's finding new reasons to not like black people, and those assholes in his stories are just a few examples of why he's liking black people less and less everyday. If he was only talking about those specific individuals in his story, the quote wouldn't make sense. If a guy pulls a gun on you, you don't like him less and less everyday. Your opinion of that individual hit rock bottom and it more or less ends there. Does Kovalev seriously mean he's still meeting these same individuals everyday finding new ways ways to dislike these specific individuals more and more everyday? No. He's obviously meant black people in general by "these tanned." In other words, he's generalizing from a few bad experiences.

And given that this is all in the context of Kovalev calling someone a purebred nigger, you'll have to be extremely charitable to interpret it differently.

NO NO NO NO, don't bring that quote up. Obviously we are stuck on his use of the term negro. Why would we actually bring up his racists comments?

[J The UnBiased]

Fair nuff.

He does make it clear that it's not just 'blacks' but criminals 'illegals' that he has a problem with - specifically 'islanders' - Jamaicans? Certainly Caribbeans.

Bear in mind Kovalev called Grover Young what he did in the context of a guy who'd robbed him of a KO win on his record.

Bear in mind also that Kovalev now lives in a society (the US) which is endemically and intrinsically racist as illustrated in its media and realised in its justice system. Bear also in mind that he's not been trained to into the ferocious blindness that pervades US society as to its failings.

The guy's being told, left, right and center in the news, TV and movies that he's likely to be shot by a black crack-head if he goes out at night, but apparently no one's told him that he's not allowed to talk about this.

Does anyone here actually think Sergei's talking about black mothers and kids here? No he's talking about the guys who scare him - the guys who he's been taught to fear, the guys who he thinks might have guns that his fists can't defend against.

So..............it's ok because he's ignorant?

[Light_Speed]

To english speakers, sure. Like many have said the word doesnt have the same meaning as it does in the US and taking it out of context, it sounds bad.

"Negro" is used in spanish speaking countries because it means "black". If thats what they use in Russia to refer to blacks, whats the problem? Heaven forbid a word in another language sounds like an english one that offends. Nacho calls everybody negro and negrito and Roger calls all the white guys white boys but nobody can say "black"? It's really only the secret racists who get offended. I'm not sure a regular person even cares... Like they say in spanish "El que busca encuentra".

I guess Sillakh shouldn't have been offended when he was called that as a kid and had to fight.

This excuse is BS.

[DoktorSleepless]

But I think its really important to point out that "racism" is a loaded term, but its a word I don't think fits here, especially when someone from a ****geneous society like Kovalev uses a word like the one he used. The best way to describe Kovalev is "clueless." Some people simply have no concept of the power some words carry in different cultures. So imagine if we were in the Japanese culture and used the word "hentai" like its used in American culture, we'd probably get a few looks because it means pervert(ed). So it wouldn't be the responsibility of the Japanese to adjust their culture but its up to the visitor to that culture to raise their awareness.

You're right that racism is a loaded term. Especially in the US where the word historically has an institutionalized aspect to it, which Kovalev has no relation to. It probably isn't the right term to use. Definitely ignorant or prejudiced though.

[J The UnBiased]

The US media is so politically correct, they never talk about crime statistics by race.



What an absolute crock of ****.

I agree. I think "I like blacks less and less" is as clear cut as can be.

[Zano-24]

Calling him a hype job proves you're upset. And you contradict yourself some more by saying you don't really care & people should just "move on", then go on to imply that you would care, only if he was a bigger star, as if that makes any ****ing difference.

And Bradley's NOT a hype job?

First of all he is a hype job. Also, I am not upset about anything he said. I don't know this person nor do I care about him or his opinion because hes not some major figure in the public eye as of right now for me to really care. What I am saying is that people are focusing too much on someones opinion and views when hes nothing but a hype job in the first place. At least wait until he is something big enough to waste your time arguing over. I am a black person and there are certain black people in this country I cannot stand, most rappers fit in that certain mold of those kind of people. But I do have a family and friends who don't share that mold so what he says doesn't really matter that much to me personally. I just find it odd that people are quick to simply brush off certain things like this all too often as if its okay with what he said.

[caiiia]

I read almost the whole thread and enjoyed what I perceive as a culture clash between Russian and Western culture.

I'm Russian so I understand what Kovalev says. Let's cut all the crap - he's a little racist Any russian person who says otherwise and read Kovalev's interviews is a hypocrite. He DID use the N word in the form of n***er once.
I must say that this perjorative form comes to russian language straight from Holywood movies, in Russian a standart term for the black African is "Nyegr",
which has no racist slur whatsoever. It's just a term for a person from Africa, that's all.

The thing is - Kovalev says this **** because he does not care about political correctness at all. Tons of white males from US have similar thoughts but can't voice them due to culture of political correctess. In Russia (and most of all in Chelyabinsk, lol) it's simply not there. So basically Kovalev just doesn't give a **** and says what comes to his mind. I must say he has his way with words when he speaks Russian, I enjoy his interviews cause there are a lot of fun. He's a stand-up dude from one of the toughest russian towns, his interviews has a funny criminal slur, on top of that he is an intelligent guy, by no means ******. HE JUST DOESN'T GIVE A FLYING ****!

that's bound to change, obviously. His manager probably had some enlightning conversation with him already.

Stop being so serious en masse, black fighters who feel offended should man up and beat Kovalev's ass, that's it. This is boxing for god's sake, fighters say a lot of crap, Tyson promised to eat some children and Hopkings desecrated a flag of independent state.

[takingaim]

First of all he is a hype job. Also, I am not upset about anything he said. I don't know this person nor do I care about him or his opinion because hes not some major figure in the public eye as of right now for me to really care. What I am saying is that people are focusing too much on someones opinion and views when hes nothing but a hype job in the first place. At least wait until he is something big enough to waste your time arguing over. I am a black person and there are certain black people in this country I cannot stand, most rappers fit in that certain mold of those kind of people. But I do have a family and friends who don't share that mold so what he says doesn't really matter that much to me personally. I just find it odd that people are quick to simply brush off certain things like this all too often as if its okay with what he said.

So people should "move on"... only until he's made a name for himself, THEN they should talk about it. THEN you go on to say that people shouldn't "brush this off". Make your mind up you fool.

And yes, you're butthurt. You call Kovalev a hype job, but you think Bradley's the real deal. You're a joke.