If Floyd truly ducked Pacquiao...

[check hook]

None of you "want to rehash this" but somehow every time you do rehash it, you all bull**** about what actually happened.

[Jack Napier]

So how did his demands constantly change then as you just asserted? His demands were clear from late 2009, and that was that the bout consist of OST. OST only became a problem at the end of the negotiation in early 2010. Why wasn't it an issue before then, when they knew about it?

It was team MP who made the testing a big issue, and then wanted a 30 day cut off. Mayweather eventually compromised with a 14 day cut off, even though Top Rank lied and said he did not. Surprise surprise Clottey teed up two weeks later?



He didn't change any. In fact he compromised the whole way.

- initially he said their was no way he would give in to 50/50, HE DID!
- Roach said he wanted it at 154 with 10 oz gloves, he DIDN'T. He agreed to 147 with 8 oz.
- He agreed to the $10m weight penalty

and the real kicker, it was his team who made the initial contact with TR to negotiate the fight.

So i ask again, what demands did he change? Because you seem to be back tracking already.

Pac took his sweetass time agreeing but did agree to do Floyd's testing
thing is Floyd didn't wanna negotiate cutoff dates for it
they ended up talking personally on the phone about it
Pac agreed to unlimited testing, then Floyd said no 50-50
Pac publicly stated he'd accept lesser money
when Floyd was still cool with 50, Pac was willing to go for it
Floyd ultimately pulled his "you're with Arum" card
he wasted everybody's time supposedly negotiating
and when Pac agreed to this stuff, he came up with new excuses
already told you, this has been discussed 15246326 times here
it dragged on for yrs until Pac got whacked by piss drinker
this is pointless dude, you hear what you wanna hear

[Doctor_Tenma]

you're a Floyd guy, you won't be convinced
nobody is gonna listen to the opposing side
that's why these "debates" are utterly pointless
just be happy Pac's done now and Floyd will KO him when they fight
piss drinker killed Pac, Floyd will **** the carcass

Believe what you may, doesn't change the fact that what your saying is false. All of Pacquiao's demands for the most part were met, he wouldn't comply to a 14 day cutoff and opted for Clottey which was straight up disrespectful to the fans. Shorty after the Clottey fight was signed; days, Floyd said he was no longer gonna give Pacquiao a cutoff date, Pacquiao in turn acted like an idiot when months after defeating Clottey he said he was willing to comply to an offer that he had once walked away from, an offer that was no longer on the table.

[Pacquiao'd]

Believe what you may, doesn't change the fact that what your saying is false. All of Pacquiao's demands for the most part were met, he wouldn't comply to a 14 day cutoff and opted for Clottey which was straight up disrespectful to the fans. Shorty after the Clottey fight was signed; days, Floyd said he was no longer gonna give Pacquiao a cutoff date, Pacquiao in turn acted like an idiot when months after defeating Clottey he said he was willing to comply to an offer that he had once walked away from, an offer that was no longer on the table.

he was fine with the 14 day cutoff, which he demanded, but he didnt comply with the Random part of testing. He wanted 3 scheduled blood tests.

[jas]

Believe what you may, doesn't change the fact that what your saying is false. All of Pacquiao's demands for the most part were met, he wouldn't comply to a 14 day cutoff and opted for Clottey which was straight up disrespectful to the fans. Shorty after the Clottey fight was signed; days, Floyd said he was no longer gonna give Pacquiao a cutoff date, Pacquiao in turn acted like an idiot when months after defeating Clottey he said he was willing to comply to an offer that he had once walked away from, an offer that was no longer on the table.

Stop making it out like pacquaio is ruling his own career.

He just listens to roach, koncz and arum. 3 stubborn people. And koncz just listens to arum so basically he listens to 2 people and does what they say.

[Pacquiao'd]

Yeah Floyd "agreed to 50/50" then a year later, he wanted 100-0.....lol people actually believe this ****?

that didnt happen either

[Jack Napier]

Believe what you may, doesn't change the fact that what your saying is false. All of Pacquiao's demands for the most part were met, he wouldn't comply to a 14 day cutoff and opted for Clottey which was straight up disrespectful to the fans. Shorty after the Clottey fight was signed; days, Floyd said he was no longer gonna give Pacquiao a cutoff date, Pacquiao in turn acted like an idiot when months after defeating Clottey he said he was willing to comply to an offer that he had once walked away from, an offer that was no longer on the table.

he agreed to the damn testing, which he didn't have to period
why did he need to agree to the cutoff dates Floyd wanted?
thought it was "take the tests and we fight?"
and when he agreed to that, Floyd said "too late, shoulda done it before"
and when Pac agreed to unlimited, Floyd came with money, Arum, etc
deny it all you want; Pac tried, Floyd kept moving the goalposts
again, this is pointless, you won't go against towing the Floyd line

[check hook]

Pac took his sweetass time agreeing but did agree to do Floyd's testing
thing is Floyd didn't wanna negotiate cutoff dates for it
they ended up talking personally on the phone about it
Pac agreed to unlimited testing, then Floyd said no 50-50
Pac publicly stated he'd accept lesser money
when Floyd was still cool with 50, Pac was willing to go for it
Floyd ultimately pulled his "you're with Arum" card
he wasted everybody's time supposedly negotiating
and when Pac agreed to this stuff, he came up with new excuses
already told you, this has been discussed 15246326 times here
it dragged on for yrs until Pac got whacked by piss drinker
this is pointless dude, you hear what you wanna hear

All this crap happened in the last 12 months. There was no extra demands or roadblocks in 2010 when this fight was MP's signature away from being reality, but he was too scared of needles and bruises for that to occur. Floyd did negotiate a 14 day cut off in 2010, which was rejected. So how can anyone claim there was an 11th hour demand or roadblock in that instance, which they all seem to do every time they talk about this???? You are right, it has been discussed 15246326 times, yet every time it is everyone seems to just skip any of the actual chronology of what actually happened and insert their own version.

[Pacquiao'd]

Pac took his sweetass time agreeing but did agree to do Floyd's testing
thing is Floyd didn't wanna negotiate cutoff dates for it
they ended up talking personally on the phone about it
Pac agreed to unlimited testing, then Floyd said no 50-50
Pac publicly stated he'd accept lesser money
when Floyd was still cool with 50, Pac was willing to go for it
Floyd ultimately pulled his "you're with Arum" card
he wasted everybody's time supposedly negotiating
and when Pac agreed to this stuff, he came up with new excuses
already told you, this has been discussed 15246326 times here
it dragged on for yrs until Pac got whacked by piss drinker
this is pointless dude, you hear what you wanna hear

another ***ing lie. Pac wanted 14 days which Floyd eventually agreed to, agreed to Pacs 1mil per lb stip too but Juiceman walked because he didnt want to be randomly tested eventhough he got the 14 days he asked for.

Pacs teams said they were ok with unlimited URINE but wanted 3 SCHEDULED blood tests so again, stop ***ing lying, clown.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Stop making it out like pacquaio is ruling his own career.

He just listens to roach, koncz and arum. 3 stubborn people. And koncz just listens to arum so basically he listens to 2 people and does what they say.

Pacquiao doesn't but please go back and follow the negotiations closely. People are too infatuated with fighters that it leads to a lot of irrationality on here, I know I keep saying that but it's the truth. Pacquiao himself turned down the 14 day cutoff, no one else did that but him.