If Floyd truly ducked Pacquiao...

[Pugilist95]

Then why were there negotiations for this fight to take place? Why was this fight even close to happening? Why didn't Floyd do what he did when Margacheato called him out?

[Redd Foxx]

I've defended Floyd so many times, and will likely continue to. But seriously man, it's pretty obvious what's happening here. The only way to not see it is to lie to yourself.

[hugh grant]

Floyds the one who don't fight much so whos fault is it likely to be? Pac is the one who like a machine likes to fight every 6 months.

Floyd is the one who let his peers beat up on each other and then fights the winner taking all the glory, ie letting Margario, Cotto, SSM slug it out and then beat old SSM and then Cotto when Cotto sufficiently beat up by Pac.

Floyd is the cherry picking ducker and Pac isn't ripe yet.

[Jack Napier]

Then why were there negotiations for this fight to take place? Why was this fight even close to happening? Why didn't Floyd do what he did when Margacheato called him out?

it never really was; every fucking time Pac agreed to Floyd's demands Floyd would just change them to something else :laugh:

[TonitosWay]

I've defended Floyd so many times, and will likely continue to. But seriously man, it's pretty obvious what's happening here. The only way to not see it is to lie to yourself.

Those that keep it real are far & few in between.

[MindBat]

Manny was offered millions when it really mattered and instead decided to waste everyone's time.

Why sue in court for pocket change when you can settle it in the ring for millions more? This the fight sport. If you're a fighter you settle your beefs and differences in the ring.

Why refuse random drug tests and after getting KO'd now you require random drug tests from your opponents?

At this point Manny needs Floyd so bad, his fans are losing sleep over it.

[jayblack]

it never really was; every fucking time Pac agreed to Floyd's demands Floyd would just change them to something else :laugh:

Pac never agreed during negotiations. So he never really agreed to anything. Like when he said that he would fight for less than a 50/50 split (which he did not deserve. That would have been like Cotto asking him for 50/50 split. Yeah Cotto brought in money but not pac money. Yeah pac brings in money but not Floyd money. ) and then when the negotiate stay he says he'll only fought for 50/50. Pac was first scared of needles, then wanted to dictate when he would be tested, then his cut wouldn't heal in time (when that didn't work), he needed a new stadium built, then wouldn't take his highest payday for the fight. The blame clearly les on pav and his team. You can hate one fighter and love the other but facts are facts

[Jack Napier]

Pac never agreed during negotiations. So he never really agreed to anything. Like when he said that he would fight for less than a 50/50 split (which he did not deserve. That would have been like Cotto asking him for 50/50 split. Yeah Cotto brought in money but not pac money. Yeah pac brings in money but not Floyd money. ) and then when the negotiate stay he says he'll only fought for 50/50. Pac was first scared of needles, then wanted to dictate when he would be tested, then his cut wouldn't heal in time (when that didn't work), he needed a new stadium built, then wouldn't take his highest payday for the fight. The blame clearly les on pav and his team. You can hate one fighter and love the other but facts are facts

not gonna rehash all this crap, it's been done a million times
Pac agreed to Floyd's demands and Floyd changed them
testing, unlimited testing, less money, going through 50 Cent, etc
Pac tried, and Floyd stalled until Pac got beat by someone else
Floyd will fight him now that he's shot, so don't worry

[jayblack]

not gonna rehash all this crap, it's been done a million times
Pac agreed to Floyd's demands and Floyd changed them
testing, unlimited testing, less money, going through 50 Cent, etc
Pac tried, and Floyd stalled until Pac got beat by someone else
Floyd will fight him now that he's shot, so don't worry

Floyd let it be known when he offered 50/50 split that he would never get that deal again. Then he offered 40 mil and pav turned that down as well. Pac had flip flopped many times when it's time for negotiations? Had pac ever contacted Floyd to try to make this fight? Has he ever put pressure on aim and said I don't care what you have to do make this fight happen? You have to understand Floyd is and has been since dlh left the spurt the cash cow of boxing. Pac is second. Number One didn't chase number two. Pac had to give in to Floyd not the other way around. Pac has not done that. We can go back and look at all articles from legit sources and ser who is holding the fight up. And to be honest I don't fully blame pac, I have always put the blame on arum. If pac can win all his fights in 2014 the fight will happen in 2015. But understand if pac is planning on separating from arum then arum will make sure pac losses so he can create a new cash cow.

[Jack Napier]

Floyd let it be known when he offered 50/50 split that he would never get that deal again. Then he offered 40 mil and pav turned that down as well. Pac had flip flopped many times when it's time for negotiations? Had pac ever contacted Floyd to try to make this fight? Has he ever put pressure on aim and said I don't care what you have to do make this fight happen? You have to understand Floyd is and has been since dlh left the spurt the cash cow of boxing. Pac is second. Number One didn't chase number two. Pac had to give in to Floyd not the other way around. Pac has not done that. We can go back and look at all articles from legit sources and ser who is holding the fight up. And to be honest I don't fully blame pac, I have always put the blame on arum. If pac can win all his fights in 2014 the fight will happen in 2015. But understand if pac is planning on separating from arum then arum will make sure pac losses so he can create a new cash cow.

Floyd didn't want the fight dude
he ultimately pulled his "no Arum" card when all else failed
after a couple yrs of Pac gradually bending, Floyd quit pretending
it will happen now and in Pac's current form, Pac can't win
and Arum already forced a Pac loss to try and build a new cash cow
it didn't work because EVERYONE knew what Arum had just pulled