Is Sergio a coward for not fighting GGG?

[-Kev-]

Cotto says he turned down Pacquiao because Pac wanted a 150 CW.

Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, made it seem as if Cotto was intimidated by the Filipino Congressman, claiming the Puerto Rican turned down a 13-million dollar purse to avoid the fight.

However, Miguel explained his decision during a recent interview with Boxingscene.com.

"That's not true. That's not true," Cotto said. "The main reason the Pacquiao conversation [went sour] is that he wants me to go down to 150 [pounds] -- the same as in 2009 when they made me go down to 145 -- [so] they can take advantage of that. That was the real reason [for refusing the rematch]. [Back in 2009] the inexperience made me do it, but I'm not going to do it again [fight Pacquiao at a catch-weight]."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/miguel-cotto-says-manny-pacquiao-refused-fight-him-210600780--box.html

Marquez wanted 50-50 split and didn't get that so he went with Bradley with the reason being that Bradley is the champion and is 'the best', but that was after being rejected of the 50-50 split.

"My gut instinct on what is next? I want it to be Marquez, Manny wants Marquez, but Marquez wants a lot, lot, lot of money," Roach told The Sweet Science. "I think it's a little outrageous. It may not happen. We might have to go to Mike Alvarado or Brandon Rios or a Tim Bradley rematch could be made. I want Marquez right away, Manny and I both want it. But Marquez wants just about a 50-50 split. Manny brings butts in seats, pay-per-view-wise, Manny is the guy. Obviously Manny deserves more. I think a rematch will make a lot more money than the last fight. I think both sides can ask for more and Marquez deserves something, but not 50-50."

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sport...z-50-50-split#

[MDPopescu]

I keep repeating: let's see first if Martinez can fight again... Which I doubt.

[-Kev-]

GGG should say: Ill fight you on all your terms and you could keep 80% of the purse (has to pay his team!).

Now, if that happens and Sergio ducks him.........

Here is the problem, 80% of what? As much as hardcore fans want this fight, the fight would generate next to nothing. The 300 fans asking for this fight around forums + about 95,000 other fans will make for a pathetic 100k PPV. I'll give it 150-180k at the very best, and that is a big stretch and giving it too much credit. Which would still generate peanuts and not enough money to guarantee Martinez $5mill+ while paying GGG a comfortable amount of money. And no way in hell would this fight be on HBO WCB, because HBO cannot afford it.

[Humean]

Some guys fight for legacy and to prove they are the best. We know Sergio doesn't fit this mold of fighter.

Only when it pays well. It is easy to talk about proving that you are the best and your fighting for your place in the history of the sport when there is significant money coming your way in the process.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Cotto turned it down because it was a 149 catchweight. And if he was fighting for legacy, he would taken the Pacquiao rematch.

JMM already knocked out Pacquiao. His legacy does not change with another fight.

did they not turn down more money to go after titles?

[A-Wolf]

It's a wonder nobody takes any of this stuff seriously.

[big_james10]

HBO wont work with Golden boy and you know that.
Chavez JR cant even make 168! this fight would be dumb for everyone involved, whos to say that he even gets by vera the second time he faces him?

a regular hbo? for the golovkin fight? He fought freaking stevens and drew 1.5 million viewers, he also drew more people in the arena than Chavez did against vera. sergio vs GGG would be a big ppv event, at least 400-500k buys and hbo would pay a lot of money for it. He will make the same as chavez if not more with ggg

What HBO did with GBP was the equivalent of a child taking his ball and going home because the other kids on the playground won't play the game by his rules. What usually happens in that case is the child will see the other children playing without him and having fun while he is sulking. He will eventually rejoin the other kids and play according to the group rules.

HBO has had a bunch of mediocre fight cards this year and will eventually come to their senses and realized they need to work with GBP if they want to improve the quality of their shows. If they can get a fight between Alvarez and Martinez or Alvarez and Cotto, I guarantee HBO would change their mind about working with GBP. HBO's ratings have been higher, but they have 30 percent more viewers than Showtime, so their ratings should be 30 percent higher than Showtime, but they are not.

Pacquaio barely drew 400,000 buys in his last fight, but you think a fight with two guys who are only known by the hardcore fans would draw 500,000 ppvs? No way! and there is no way would HBO put Martinez/GGG on PPV.

As for Chavez, I really don't give a damn about him, but he a lot more money than GGG and is still a bigger draw, in spite of his last fight.

[DoktorSleepless]

did they not turn down more money to go after titles?

You're seriously want to tell me that a Trout win does more for Cotto's legacy than avenging his Pacquiao loss? And if Cotto can't make a catchweight, he's not turning down any money. It's a fight that's simply impossible. If you can't make weight, you can't make weight. End of story.

While I can agree there's a nobleness in turning the Pac payday, jeez... he already fought him 4 times.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

You're seriously want to tell me that a Trout win does more for Cotto's legacy than avenging his Pacquiao loss? And if Cotto can't make a catchweight, he's not turning down any money. It's a fight that's simply impossible. If you can't make weight, you can't make weight. End of story.

While I can agree there's a nobleness in turning the Pac payday, jeez... he already fought him 4 times.

but it kinda debunks your 'they all fight for the most money' theory dont it

[DoktorSleepless]

but it kinda debunks your 'they all fight for the most money' theory dont it

Mayweather calls of Klitschko to fight at 147 for $150,000,000. Klitschko refuses. THEORY DEBUNKED!

I'm willing to admit there's some special circumstances like that one JMM case where it doesn't always apply, but they tend to be exceptions that prove the rule. In general, yes, that's how it almost always works. Fighting for the most amount of money is how all managers/promoters guide their fighter's careers.