Excluding Floyd/Ward, who else beats Rigo pfp and why please.

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #141
    Originally posted by Carpe Diem
    Okay, fair enough. Stylistically, How do you think Manny would beat him?
    It's hard to say considering I don't really know how Rigondeaux would deal with a style like Pacquaio or someone with the ability of him and what he brings.

    I know that Pacquaio would definitely have issues at times with the style, timing, defense of Rigondeaux.

    That said, I really don't know how Rigondeaux handles world class aggression, with speed, angles etc

    So to answer your question; I simply don't know.

    What I do know is I think it's way too early to say he'd beat someone on the level of Pacquaio considering he's really not shown it in the ring yet.

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      #142
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      It's hard to say considering I don't really know how Rigondeaux would deal with a style like Pacquaio or someone with the ability of him and what he brings.

      I know that Pacquaio would definitely have issues at times with the style, timing, defense of Rigondeaux.

      That said, I really don't know how Rigondeaux handles world class aggression, with speed, angles etc

      So to answer your question; I simply don't know.

      What I do know is I think it's way too early to say he'd beat someone on the level of Pacquaio considering he's really not shown it in the ring yet.
      I noticed you have not given Chavez any credit in this tread. But you have before. Why is that?

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        #143
        Originally posted by Bushbaby
        I noticed you have not given Chavez any credit in this tread. But you have before. Why is that?
        I think Chavez has potential and looked decent against Thurman.

        That's the credit I've given him in the past.

        But at the same time, he's literally completely unproven and has never beaten a ranked fighter or hurt a fighter with a good chin.

        Therefore, I can't say he's a "Beast" or a "Monstrous puncher" or a "Top level fighter" and "Better than proven fighters" because he simply has not shown me that or anyone that, at this stage.

        Whether he goes on to show it is unknown, hence why I'm not ruling him out. Just ruling out the idea he's proven these things when he simply hasn't. Like I said, he has literally not beaten a single fighter of note or of any rank.

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          #144
          Appears like an interesting guesstimate that Rigo is unbeatable, despite not having been in with a wide variety of skillsets.

          There's parts of his game that are lacking I wouldn't be surprised to see him struggle with a good chinned volume/pressure fighter.

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            #145
            Sadly there was a time when I would have said Mares was the guy to test him. Then that 1 round happened.

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              #146
              Originally posted by RyunosukeRonin
              Appears like an interesting guesstimate that Rigo is unbeatable, despite not having been in with a wide variety of skillsets.

              There's parts of his game that are lacking I wouldn't be surprised to see him struggle with a good chinned volume/pressure fighter.
              So true.

              Rigondeaux beats a prime Pacquaio and the guy hasn't even fought a world class agressive fighter

              He looked awesome against Donaire who's a top top top fighter but that's just one style. Donaire's a counter puncher himself and as good as he is has plenty of holes.

              Seems after that fight Rigondeaux went from perhaps the most underrated to the most overrated in the space of a day.

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              • Bushbaby
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                #147
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                I think Chavez has potential and looked decent against Thurman.

                That's the credit I've given him in the past.

                But at the same time, he's literally completely unproven and has never beaten a ranked fighter or hurt a fighter with a good chin.

                Therefore, I can't say he's a "Beast" or a "Monstrous puncher" or a "Top level fighter" and "Better than proven fighters" because he simply has not shown me that or anyone that, at this stage.

                Whether he goes on to show it is unknown, hence why I'm not ruling him out. Just ruling out the idea he's proven these things when he simply hasn't. Like I said, he has literally not beaten a single fighter of note or of any rank.
                I can dig it.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  So true.

                  Rigondeaux beats a prime Pacquaio and the guy hasn't even fought a world class agressive fighter

                  He looked awesome against Donaire who's a top top top fighter but that's just one style. Donaire's a counter puncher himself and as good as he is has plenty of holes.

                  Seems after that fight Rigondeaux went from perhaps the most underrated to the most overrated in the space of a day.
                  But who spoke of a prime Pacman though??

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    But who spoke of a prime Pacman though??
                    Carpe Diem in this thread and plenty more across the board.

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Carpe Diem in this thread and plenty more across the board.
                      Ohh, well in that case continue on. I think prime for prime it'd be a close one. But right now I'd take Rigo no question.

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