Excluding Floyd/Ward, who else beats Rigo pfp and why please.

[Bushbaby]

Agreed.

I'm definitely not too quick to say Rigondeaux would beat Pacquaio.

Sure, he has tools that would post issues but I've not seen nearly enough to say he dominates or beats him.

Prime Pacquaio I'm talking about.

But what would prime Pacman have to do with today's??

[HeroBando]

Because I was showing you you're own logic. It's all you've held unto. You still lied when saying that's OP's point cause it wasn't, nor isn't. There's no "eye test' involved in my opening post. Why don't you go read it instead of assuming?

I probably meant TS and not OP, don't get too worked up over it. You're still all over the place, and refuse to answer any of my questions.

1. How can beating an undefeated p4per be "dismal"? Especially if 90% had him winning dominant?
2. Where do you have Bradley p4p?
3. If Kiko beats Rigo, where is he p4p? How about if he just walks through him?

[Bushbaby]

I probably meant TS and not OP, don't get too worked up over it. You're still all over the place, and refuse to answer any of my questions.

1. How can beating an undefeated p4per be "dismal"? Especially if 90% had him winning dominant?
2. Where do you have Bradley p4p?
3. If Kiko beats Rigo, where is he p4p? How about if he just walks through him?

Because Pacman did not dominate Bradley. He looked bad in that fight. To make matters worse Bradley was injured the majority of the affair.

I have Bradley top 10 currently. Haven't put down an exact spot.

If Kiko beat Rigo I'd look further into into it.

That still has nothing to do with having Pacman ranked higher than Rigo right now, or who'd win if they were the same size and fought.

[IronDanHamza]

But what would prime Pacman have to do with today's??

Nothing

I wouldn't pick Pacquaio over him now solely because I don't know where he's at but if he were to say fight Bradley and beat him then I'd pick Pacquaio.

[HeroBando]

Because Pacman did not dominate Bradley. He looked bad in that fight. To make matters worse Bradley was injured the majority of the affair.

I have Bradley top 10 currently. Haven't put down an exact spot.

If Kiko beat Rigo I'd look further into into it.

That still has nothing to do with having Pacman ranked higher than Rigo right now, or who'd win if they were the same size and fought.

Do you have to dominate an undefeated p4per for it not to be dismal? And as you saw, a huge majority though he dominated, without breaking much of a sweat.

Nice noncommital answers.

Fine, this Pac might not be beat Rigo p4p, who the fcuk knows. He carries a big resume/level of comp advantage. He looked great vs JMM, and it took JMM a lot of fortitude to put himself in the position to stop him. He didn't look that great vs Rios, but understandable he'd be extra cautious coming back off that

[Bushbaby]

Do you have to dominate an undefeated p4per for it not to be dismal? And as you saw, a huge majority though he dominated, without breaking much of a sweat.

Nice noncommital answers.

Fine, this Pac might not be beat Rigo p4p, who the fcuk knows. He carries a big resume/level of comp advantage. He looked great vs JMM, and it took JMM a lot of fortitude to put himself in the position to stop him. He didn't look that great vs Rios, but understandable he'd be extra cautious coming back off that

And that's all I'm saying......

[Carpe Diem]

Agreed.

I'm definitely not too quick to say Rigondeaux would beat Pacquaio.

Sure, he has tools that would post issues but I've not seen nearly enough to say he dominates or beats him.

Prime Pacquaio I'm talking about.

Prime or past Pacquiao. I'd take Rigo to beat him if they were the same size. Manny needs punching angles to set up his combos, and Rigo wouldn't give him anything. Rigo is arguably the best at dictating the pace and flow of a fight. Past or prime Manny makes far too many technical mistakes to beat Rigo. Rigo is not feather-fisted, and i don't think Manny would take the risk to overwhelm him without paying the price.

[IronDanHamza]

Prime or past Pacquiao. I'd take Rigo to beat him if they were the same size. Manny needs punching angles to set up his combos, and Rigo wouldn't give him anything. Rigo is arguably the best at dictating the pace and flow of a fight. Past or prime Manny makes far too many technical mistakes to beat Rigo. Rigo is not feather-fisted, and i don't think Manny would take the risk to overwhelm him without paying the price.

Rigondeaux has yet to even show me how he deals with a world class aggressive fighter.

Let alone one as awkward and fast as Pacquaio in both hand and feet.

I've no doubt Rigondeaux has tools that would trouble Pacquaio but I feel it's way too premature to say he'd beat someone on Pacquaios level.

[HeroBando]

Prime or past Pacquiao. I'd take Rigo to beat him if they were the same size. Manny needs punching angles to set up his combos, and Rigo wouldn't give him anything. Rigo is arguably the best at dictating the pace and flow of a fight. Past or prime Manny makes far too many technical mistakes to beat Rigo. Rigo is not feather-fisted, and i don't think Manny would take the risk to overwhelm him without paying the price.

Donaire got some solid shots in, Marroquin shook him twice. Prime Pac is a whole different animal, Donaire has nothing on him, nevermind Marroquin

[Carpe Diem]

Rigondeaux has yet to even show me how he deals with a world class aggressive fighter.

Let alone one as awkward and fast as Pacquaio in both hand and feet.

I've no doubt Rigondeaux has tools that would trouble Pacquaio but I feel it's way too premature to say he'd beat someone on Pacquaios level.

Okay, fair enough. Stylistically, How do you think Manny would beat him?