Excluding Floyd/Ward, who else beats Rigo pfp and why please.

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  • way2strong
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    #11
    Originally posted by Golovkin
    Pacquiao hurts him and finishes him within 6. Mayweather would probably lose since he relies on boxing as well and Rigo is a better/more pure boxer than Floyd, and he doesn't take unnecesary risks. Marquez wouldn't be able to touch him now at 40. Bradley wouldn't beat him either.

    Golovkin would smash him too and bad. I believe Thurman would beat him as well. Maidana would trouble him too. It's not really about P4P talent that can beat him, it's more about styles.

    Any fighter with dynamic movement, great speed and power in both hands stands a good chance at beating Rigo. Rigo just hides behind his defense which makes him unreachable (and boring as hell), fighters who get inside his safe zone will destroy him. Like it happened when Donaire caught him inside and another fighter who as soon as he touched Rigo he went down.

    In order for Rigo to be good and effective, he needs to be in control. He create a safe zone where he operates from and keeps you at distance. He can protect that zone well. Invade the zone though and Rigo becomes vulnerable.

    well said. now just throw in canelo with some fake comical reasons and you will have made bushbaby proud

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    • Bushbaby
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      #12
      Originally posted by Golovkin
      Pacquiao hurts him and finishes him within 6. Mayweather would probably lose since he relies on boxing as well and Rigo is a better/more pure boxer than Floyd, and he doesn't take unnecesary risks. Marquez wouldn't be able to touch him now at 40. Bradley wouldn't beat him either.

      Golovkin would smash him too and bad. I believe Thurman would beat him as well. Maidana would trouble him too. It's not really about P4P talent that can beat him, it's more about styles.

      Any fighter with dynamic movement, great speed and power in both hands stands a good chance at beating Rigo. Rigo just hides behind his defense which makes him unreachable (and boring as hell), fighters who get inside his safe zone will destroy him. Like it happened when Donaire caught him inside and another fighter who as soon as he touched Rigo he went down.

      In order for Rigo to be good and effective, he needs to be in control. He create a safe zone where he operates from and keeps you at distance. He can protect that zone well. Invade the zone though and Rigo becomes vulnerable.
      Pacman could never do that with a lesser counter puncher in Marquez, but he's supposed to do it with Rigo?? How?

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      • Bushbaby
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        #13
        Originally posted by 4Corners
        You have a need to be right about everything 100% of the time, and for everyone to agree with you all the time, 100%. It's sad really.

        No one does, but P4P is more of a resume thing it seems.
        So you don't know? Ok.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Bushbaby
          According to "who" exactly? And since when? Since when does being popular result in top pfp ranking. Or even resume for that matter?

          Khan beat Maidana years ago, but I'm willing to wager that ElChino destroys him right now.

          Margarito beat Martinez years ago, but who'd win if they fought 2 years ago?

          Sure pfp have become the uneducated boxing fan's popularity contest. But make no mistake, that is not the real meaning of pfp.
          I'm going by the rankings man it's painfully obvious when guys like Canelo and Broner are making p4p list solely on their popularity. Guys like Bradley are on that list just on his resume alone . I'm not arguing this is the correct way to do it I'm simply stating it's the way it's currently done.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Bushbaby
            You've seen what happens when Pacman faced a very good counterpuncher. Rigo's that much better than Marquez.
            so? just because someone is a counter-puncher they beat pacquiao?

            barrera was a pretty good counter-puncher, cotto can counter-punch, bradley can counter-punch

            pacquiao hurts everyone he faces, he will land on rigo and rigo has nowhere the chin of marquez, and for all we know rigo is really not down for a tough fight where his nose gets broken or he sustains an orbital fracture grinded up insides that has him feeling like he's about to die, we dont know if he has the heart to go through a war

            to think rigo makes it easy with his chin, just wishful thinking, pacquiao is a speed demon, punches very hard, and likes to punch, he's tough as hell also, he's not gonna fold like agbeko

            im not saying pacquiao can win for sure, but im positive rigo is hurt atleast, after that he might get stopped, pacquiao may have scored enough kd's to win, or rigo will have ran enough to win a very close decision(and run he will have to to beat pacquiao)
            Last edited by SplitSecond; 12-21-2013, 12:55 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by TheHolyCross
              so? just because someone is a counter-puncher they beat pacquiao?

              barrera was a pretty good counter-puncher, cotto can counter-punch, bradley can counter-punch

              pacquiao hurts everyone he faces, he will land on rigo and rigo has nowhere the chin of marquez, and for all we know rigo is really not down for a tough fight where his nose gets broken or an orbital fracture, we dont know if he has the heart to go through a war

              to think rigo makes it easy with his chin, just wishful thinking, pacquiao is a speed demon, punches very hard, and likes to punch, he's tough as hell also, he's not gonna fold like agbeko

              im not saying pacquiao can win for sure, but im positive rigo is hurt atleast, after that he might get stopped, pacquiao may have scored enough kd's to win, or rigo will have ran enough to win a very close decision(and run he will have to to beat pacquiao)
              Pacman is a speed demon? Rigo must not be then. Pacman has good footwork, Rigo must not have then.

              Pacman hurts everyone he faces. Yet he hasn't recorded a ko in how long??

              Rigo has enough power to make Donaire afraid to fight and make a fighter who is used to throwing close to 100 a round manage 30.

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                #17
                Originally posted by 4Corners
                You don't think P4P also has resume taken into account, at least a little bit??? I think Bradley beating Marquez while he was P4P #3 has a lot to do with Bradley being at 3.
                Rigondeaux also beat #3 P4P and did so more convincingly than Bradley beat Marquez.

                I have Rigondeaux #2 P4P. Bradley went LIFE AND DEATH with Provodnikov. That reduces his ranking. He also did not CONVINCINGLY defeat Pacquiao. That reduces his rankng more. Your ranking has to do with who you beat, but more importantly, how you beat them. Bradley hasn't had any dominating wins.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Golovkin
                  Pacquiao hurts him and finishes him within 6. Mayweather would probably lose since he relies on boxing as well and Rigo is a better/more pure boxer than Floyd, and he doesn't take unnecesary risks. Marquez wouldn't be able to touch him now at 40. Bradley wouldn't beat him either.

                  Golovkin would smash him too and bad. I believe Thurman would beat him as well. Maidana would trouble him too. It's not really about P4P talent that can beat him, it's more about styles.

                  Any fighter with dynamic movement, great speed and power in both hands stands a good chance at beating Rigo. Rigo just hides behind his defense which makes him unreachable (and boring as hell), fighters who get inside his safe zone will destroy him. Like it happened when Donaire caught him inside and another fighter who as soon as he touched Rigo he went down.

                  In order for Rigo to be good and effective, he needs to be in control. He create a safe zone where he operates from and keeps you at distance. He can protect that zone well. Invade the zone though and Rigo becomes vulnerable.
                  This, Rigo bumlickers are so irritating.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    Pacman is a speed demon? Rigo must not be then. Pacman has good footwork, Rigo must not have then.

                    Pacman hurts everyone he faces. Yet he hasn't recorded a ko in how long??

                    Rigo has enough power to make Donaire afraid to fight and make a fighter who is used to throwing close to 100 a round manage 30.
                    yea, but did rigo actually hurt donaire? donaire basically fought like margarito at a point vs rigondeaux(which donaire has a history of when coming forward i.e vs mathebula) and rigo couldn't hurt him at all till he punched his eye, and even then the suppossed "hurt" donaire wasn't really hurt in the classical sense when people say someone is hurt in boxing, his eye was ****ed, but he wasn't on wobbly legs, or about to go down whatsoever

                    and just because im saying pacquiao has speed doesn't mean im neglecting rigondeaux speed, the point is it could be a shock, and rigondeaux might not be able to move the way he does when faced with someone as ferocious and speedy as pacquiao, pacquiao's speed is on par with rigo or higher p4p

                    also rigo's chin is poor unlike the last couple of opponents that pacquiao has faced and he's not as unhittable as you think, he gets hit, kd'd vs cardoba, wobbled twice vs marroquin, kd'd by donaire who wasn't throwing many punches at all

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bushbaby
                      Pacman is a speed demon? Rigo must not be then. Pacman has good footwork, Rigo must not have then.

                      Pacman hurts everyone he faces. Yet he hasn't recorded a ko in how long??

                      Rigo has enough power to make Donaire afraid to fight and make a fighter who is used to throwing close to 100 a round manage 30.
                      Yawn. He's been facing some of the most durable guys who pull a Clottey when they face him.

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