Timothy Bradley Vs. Keith Thurman

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  • el_mas_chingon
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    #121
    I think Thurman would get a UD over Bradley, not a big fan of Bradleys style and I think Thurman would overpower and outwork him possibly stop him because Provodnikov had him out on his feet. Thurman was fighting at 154 and is a naturally bigger welterweight than Bradley who just came up to 147 a few fights ago.

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    • mathed
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      #122
      Originally posted by Bushbaby
      Provo is a one dimensional come forward fighter. Thurman is clearly superior in the fact that he adapts, can pressure, slug or fight off of the backfoot. To act like Provo is anywhere near as effective is simply ridiculous.

      It's not about Thurman's power alone which I stated in the 1st post. Bradley may have slightly faster hands, I'd say the footwork is about the same and Thurman clearly has the power edge, backing up or pressing. I do not think Bradley's slightly better handspeed wins out over Thurman's usable power.
      Man......Provo looks like a 1D guy on the surface but he adapted in the Alvarado fight in order to land his left hook. Alvarado was outboxing him early on and Provo couldn't seem to find him. It was like the 5th or something where he made an adjustment with his foot placement and rotated to his right which allowed him to land the left hook over Alvarado's guard. Once that adjustment was made, it was all over for Mile High, he started getting crushed and progressively broken down by the power.

      The dude is not some low-level club fighter, he wouldn't be giving Pac hell in sparring if that were the case....still keeping in mind that sparring is just that, sparring but still, he was making people take notice which says a lot in itself.

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        #123
        Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
        Zaveck Karass Chavez all were right I'm front of Thurman..They all fought him the same way..

        Prov has a better win, and is a champion..I can't say Thurman is hands down a better fighter..

        Again Bradley has way faster feet and hands then Thurman..No question about it, his footwork is also a lot better..You go ahead and down play it doe..
        Take the fighters that Thurman has faced and put them in the ring with Tim....now reverse that with Thurman and who do we think looks better? I can't see Tim struggling or losing more than a round to any of Thurman's comp....just can't say the same thing if we throw Thurman in the ring with the level of comp that Tim has faced though. I think Thurman has a great future but I'm baffled at how mediocre some people feel Tim is and how tremendous Thurman is given their respective levels of comp.

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          #124
          Originally posted by The Surgeon
          I agree, Chaves is a bad mother Fucker
          Not trying to diss or anything but Chaves is ranked 34th in the world at WW, he is 3rd in Argentina. The fight before Thurman, he fought a guy with a record of 12-11-3.......and he went on to win a couple rounds against Thurman and looked to hurt him early.

          Provid is ranked 3rd in the world at LWW and beat the champion hi his last fight, a guy with a record of 34-1, he is also ranked as the top guy in his division from Russia. I just can't see how Chaves is in any way better than Provid is....the Thurman fight was the first fight in his entire career outside of Argentina as well.

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          • Doctor_Tenma
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            #125
            Thurman's ability to counter is underrated on here, I think his ability to pull the trigger that well, his speed, explosiveness and power will be too much for Bradley to handle for 12 rounds. I'm as big of a fan of Bradley as anyone else on here but I have to favor Thurman here. Thurman's foot speed will allow him to catch up to Bradley. Thurman has boxed very well in his last few outings but I expect him to approach this fight the same way he did Quintana. Really like both but even then I'd really love to see it......

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              #126
              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
              Thurman's ability to counter is underrated on here, I think his ability to pull the trigger that well, his speed, explosiveness and power will be too much for Bradley to handle for 12 rounds. I'm as big of a fan of Bradley as anyone else on here but I have to favor Thurman here. Thurman's foot speed will allow him to catch up to Bradley. Thurman has boxed very well in his last few outings but I expect him to approach this fight the same way he did Quintana. Really like both but even then I'd really love to see it......
              I agree, I wish TR and GBP would just quit this crap they have going on so we can see the fights that are really out there to be made. I would love to see some of these "hypothetical dream matches" become a reality. Bradley-Thurman, Garcia-Provid, Maidana-Rios, Pac-Floyd (yeah right), Matthysse-Provid, Bradley-Floyd, Pac-Broner (LMAO)

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              • Rome-By-Ko
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                #127
                Originally posted by mathed
                Take the fighters that Thurman has faced and put them in the ring with Tim....now reverse that with Thurman and who do we think looks better? I can't see Tim struggling or losing more than a round to any of Thurman's comp....just can't say the same thing if we throw Thurman in the ring with the level of comp that Tim has faced though. I think Thurman has a great future but I'm baffled at how mediocre some people feel Tim is and how tremendous Thurman is given their respective levels of comp.
                Just look at the first post, dude says he's not a fan of Bradley style..That's what most of this is, guys who don't like smart boxers..They rather see kos in every fight..It can be the only thing I can guess, cause Bradley has clearly fought better fighters up to this point..

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                  Thurman's ability to counter is underrated on here, I think his ability to pull the trigger that well, his speed, explosiveness and power will be too much for Bradley to handle for 12 rounds. I'm as big of a fan of Bradley as anyone else on here but I have to favor Thurman here. Thurman's foot speed will allow him to catch up to Bradley. Thurman has boxed very well in his last few outings but I expect him to approach this fight the same way he did Quintana. Really like both but even then I'd really love to see it......
                  I really don't see it,I see Bradley making Thurman miss..Jabbing him to the body to open him up for the big over hand right..Bradley IMO has always done better against taller fighters as well..I don't see Thurman being any different..

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                    Just look at the first post, dude says he's not a fan of Bradley style..That's what most of this is, guys who don't like smart boxers..They rather see kos in every fight..It can be the only thing I can guess, cause Bradley has clearly fought better fighters up to this point..
                    That's not even a question. The difference in opposition is ridiculous.

                    What's more important (At this point) is Thurman really has done very little in the sport.

                    He's never fought someone with handspeed. Bradley has.

                    He's never fought someone that's overly skilled. Bradley has.

                    He's never fought a proven world class slick fighter. Bradley has.

                    He's never fought a world class counter puncher. Bradley has.

                    He's never fought someone with proven top power. Bradley has.

                    Could really go on and on with this.

                    I'm not saying Thurman couldn't beat Bradley. But at this point it's hard to say so and I wouldn't pick him, considering.

                    I still need to see more of Thurman before I can really judge him.

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                    • el_mas_chingon
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                      Just look at the first post, dude says he's not a fan of Bradley style..That's what most of this is, guys who don't like smart boxers..They rather see kos in every fight..It can be the only thing I can guess, cause Bradley has clearly fought better fighters up to this point..
                      Yeah he fought real smart in the Provodnikov fight, but not just his style but what he's done, a ROBBERY against Pac, close SD vs JMM, out on his feet vs Provodnikov, a head butt TD vs Alexander. Really he hasn't done anything great and don't think he could hold up against Thurman who is much bigger come fight night than all of Bradleys prvious opponents.

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