Comments Thread For: Chris John's Full Retirement Speech, Says Goodbye

[edgarg]

Exactly. His speech was one of pure pride and love of the sport and his fans. How can people hate on that?

There is an enormous amount of ignorance shown on this site. It's really sickening to think that they are so-called human beings who are allowed to procreate and produce more sub-normal beings and so on. What they need is to have their minds scrubbed out by the same kind of disinfectant that their tongues need. And then some real education....

Will it ever happen.......?? Don't think so. An interesting theory has been floating around for some years that the apex of humanity was reached just at the time civilisation (10 commandments) became more universal. That until then, the ****** weren't smart enough to survive. Once they became protected, and could procreate, there became a huge influx of Dumbos... with just enough brains to be malicious.

And that's what we have on this site. Think .about it....

[Humean]

To all those who (or who will) criticize him for supposedly always defending 'at home' you do realize that Mayweather has never even fought outside the United States? Hell Mayweather hasn't fought outside Las Vegas, the city where he lives, since 2005. Andre Ward has fought outside the States only once. In contrast John has fought outside his native Indonesia on numerous occasions, in Australia, in US, in Japan and Singapore. American fighters rarely fight outside the States and for good reason but they are the same reasons fighters from elsewhere also tend to fight at home. However Chris John is not really one of those fighters.

Chris John had a strong career, the Marquez win was a legitimate win, I scored it a draw but it could have went either way. John is certainly not in the top tier of great featherweights, or even 2nd tier, in part because he fought far too many middling sort of contenders rather than the strong top 10 guys. However his longevity deserves respect as does having a win over Marquez.

[MAXIMUS~RICO~13]

good riddance & let the bum stay retired...NEVER had the guts 2 fight the Elite, never had the nerve 2 venture out of Australia/Indonesia area...very selective protective guy...Donaire would've done a # on him...Rigo? no
contest...many excellent boxers a weight below or above him nevr had a shot at this bum...may we never hear from him again...

Damn !!! Tell me how you really feel???

[daggum]

To all those who (or who will) criticize him for supposedly always defending 'at home' you do realize that Mayweather has never even fought outside the United States? Hell Mayweather hasn't fought outside Las Vegas, the city where he lives, since 2005. Andre Ward has fought outside the States only once. In contrast John has fought outside his native Indonesia on numerous occasions, in Australia, in US, in Japan and Singapore. American fighters rarely fight outside the States and for good reason but they are the same reasons fighters from elsewhere also tend to fight at home. However Chris John is not really one of those fighters.

Chris John had a strong career, the Marquez win was a legitimate win, I scored it a draw but it could have went either way. John is certainly not in the top tier of great featherweights, or even 2nd tier, in part because he fought far too many middling sort of contenders rather than the strong top 10 guys. However his longevity deserves respect as does having a win over Marquez.

if hes not first or second tier how did he have a strong career?

[Humean]

if hes not first or second tier how did he have a strong career?

Being a featherweight world champion for 10 years, 15 years unbeaten and having a record of 48-1-3 and being one of the few men to defeat Juan Manuel Marquez is a strong career to me. The featherweight division in historically terms has had a lot of great fighters so you have to have had a more impressive career than John's to even be in the second tier of the great featherweights. Basically he is outside the top 20, i'm not sure just how close to the top 20 i'd put him.

[Young Stribling]

There is an enormous amount of ignorance shown on this site. It's really sickening to think that they are so-called human beings who are allowed to procreate and produce more sub-normal beings and so on. What they need is to have their minds scrubbed out by the same kind of disinfectant that their tongues need. And then some real education....

Will it ever happen.......?? Don't think so. An interesting theory has been floating around for some years that the apex of humanity was reached just at the time civilisation (10 commandments) became more universal. That until then, the ****** weren't smart enough to survive. Once they became protected, and could procreate, there became a huge influx of Dumbos... with just enough brains to be malicious.

And that's what we have on this site. Think .about it....

I'm sorry, could you repeat that?

[daggum]

Being a featherweight world champion for 10 years, 15 years unbeaten and having a record of 48-1-3 and being one of the few men to defeat Juan Manuel Marquez is a strong career to me. The featherweight division in historically terms has had a lot of great fighters so you have to have had a more impressive career than John's to even be in the second tier of the great featherweights. Basically he is outside the top 20, i'm not sure just how close to the top 20 i'd put him.

ok but who was he fighting for 15 years? also if you think he lost to marquez like I do he has almost nothing on his resume. its like gary russell territory.

[umop-ap!sdn]

Should have stuck around for at least a farewell fight. Retire on a stoppage... i don't care what y'all say, that's weak. Who wan't to retire a loser?

[Jocknerd94]

There is an enormous amount of ignorance shown on this site. It's really sickening to think that they are so-called human beings who are allowed to procreate and produce more sub-normal beings and so on. What they need is to have their minds scrubbed out by the same kind of disinfectant that their tongues need. And then some real education....

Will it ever happen.......?? Don't think so. An interesting theory has been floating around for some years that the apex of humanity was reached just at the time civilisation (10 commandments) became more universal. That until then, the ****** weren't smart enough to survive. Once they became protected, and could procreate, there became a huge influx of Dumbos... with just enough brains to be malicious.

And that's what we have on this site. Think .about it....

What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling incoherent response, were you close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul. Seriously because people don't think this guy was all that great they deserve to not live or have children? Perhaps you should be neutered for that statement.

[Humean]

ok but who was he fighting for 15 years? also if you think he lost to marquez like I do he has almost nothing on his resume. its like gary russell territory.

That is a bit extreme to be comparing him with Gary Rusell's up to date record. I suppose the wins i'd consider good are Gainer, Juarez (I think he deserved the decision in both), Sato, perhaps Vorapin, a couple of guys who were outside the top 10 but probably not far and one or two more recent wins against fighter's whose career's could yet add a bit more cachet to John's resume. Obviously the standout win is Marquez, I understand if you think Marquez won, I had it a draw but Marquez winning 7 rounds to 5, Marquez had two points deducted for low blows, a bit harsh but not entirely unfair really. Surely you can admit though that Marquez didn't win comfortably like many seem to suggest and that John proved in that fight that he was a good fighter?