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  • Spray_resistant
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    #51
    Really if the WBC had any credibility they should give Wlad the option of fighting the highest rated WBC contender for the belt which is Stiverne.

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    • Weebler I
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      #52
      Originally posted by Cupo303
      [SIZE="3"]Name me one guy besides David Haye and Povetkin that Wlad didn't fight promptly, as soon as they emerged as THE GUY to beat and was also a mandatory.
      He fought Pianeta promptly, Mormeck, Wach without being "the guy" and I'm not sure they were mandatories either. These are the fights he opts to take while holding 4 belts the other top fighters aren't able to get a shot at. It's the fans who lose out because a lot of other good fights could be made with belts on the line.

      Holding 4 of 5 belts as HW champ he's the number one fighter in the sport, you'd think he'd have to face strong opponents. To be considered so dominant in a division, how many of the top 10 in his has he actually faced?

      TNB Rankings

      2. Kubrat Pulev
      3. Alexander Povetkin
      3. Tomasz Adamek
      4. Tyson Fury
      5. Tony Thompson (twice)
      6. Bermane Stiverne
      7. Robert Helenius
      8. Cristobal Arreola
      9. Dereck Chisora
      10. Mike Perez

      Ring Rankings

      1. Kubrat Pulev
      2. Alexander Povetkin
      3. Tomasz Adamek
      4. Bermane Stiverne
      5. Tyson Fury
      6. Robert Helenius
      7. Chris Arreola
      8. Odlanier Solis
      9. Ruslan Chagaev
      10. Deontay Wilder

      Originally posted by Chunk..
      Most of the guys in the top 10 talk the talk but don't wanna walk the walk unless the money's right. Look at them trying to beg their way into fighting for a vacant belt now they don't have to fight a Klitschko to get it.
      They'd all love the Klitschko shot. Pulev, Chisora, Fury...all of them. As Fury will tell you, it's the only fight there's any money in in the HW division.

      They're trying to get the vacant WBC belts because Wlad won't give them a shot at the other main belts, preferring to fight Pianeta, Mormeck, Wach and Leapai etc.

      Hell Vitali just sat on the WBC for 14 months after defending against the mighty Manuel Charr, only giving it up when the WBC finally took action.
      Last edited by Weebler I; 12-18-2013, 09:59 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Weebler I
        He fought Pianeta promptly, Mormeck, Wach without being "the guy" and I'm not sure they were mandatories either. These are the fights he opts to take while holding 4 belts the others aren't able to get a shot at.

        Holding 4 of 5 belts as HW champ he's the number one fighter in the sport. To be considered so dominant in a division, how many of the top 10 in his has he faced?

        TNB Rankings

        2. Kubrat Pulev
        3. Alexander Povetkin
        3. Tomasz Adamek
        4. Tyson Fury
        5. Tony Thompson (twice)
        6. Bermane Stiverne
        7. Robert Helenius
        8. Cristobal Arreola
        9. Dereck Chisora
        10. Mike Perez

        Ring Rankings

        1. Kubrat Pulev
        2. Alexander Povetkin
        3. Tomasz Adamek
        4. Bermane Stiverne
        5. Tyson Fury
        6. Robert Helenius
        7. Chris Arreola
        8. Odlanier Solis
        9. Ruslan Chagaev
        10. Deontay Wilder



        They'd all love the Klitschko shot. Pulev, Chisora, Fury...all of them. As Fury will tell you, it's the only fight there's any money in in the HW division.

        They're trying to get the vacant WBC belts because Wlad won't give them a shot at the other main belts, preferring to fight Pianeta, Mormeck, Wach and Leapai etc.

        Hell Vitali just sat on the WBC for 14 months after defending against the mighty Manuel Charr, only giving it up when the WBC finally took action.
        I agree... every champion takes an easy voluntary fight but the klitschko's have a few each...

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        • The Hammer
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          #54
          Originally posted by Weebler I
          Holding 4 of 5 belts as HW champ he's the number one fighter in the sport, you'd think he'd have to face strong opponents. To be considered so dominant in a division, how many of the top 10 in his has he actually faced?
          Give Wladimir time, he'll fight most of them.

          2010 Ring rankings:

          Vitali Klitschko
          David Haye
          Alexander Povetkin

          Tomasz Adamek
          Ruslan Chagaev
          Eddie Chambers
          Denis Boytsov
          Nikolay Valuev
          Alexander Dimitrenko
          Chris Arreola

          2008 Ring rankings:

          Wladimir Klitschko
          Samuel Peter
          Oleg Maskaev
          Ruslan Chagaev
          Nikolay Valuev
          Sultan Ibragimov
          Serguei Lyakhovich
          Vladimir Virchis
          Tony Thompson
          Alexander Povetkin

          2005 Ring ratings:

          Chris Byrd
          Hasim Rahman

          James Toney
          Lamon Brewster
          John Ruiz
          Monte Barrett
          Calvin Brock
          Wladimir Klitschko
          Samuel Peter
          Nicolay Valuev


          2004 Ring rankings:

          Chris Byrd
          John Ruiz
          Hasim Rahman
          James Toney
          Monte Barrett
          Andrew Golota
          Fres Oquendo
          Jameel McCline
          Corrie Sanders
          Lamon Brewster


          Wlad's fought just about everybody. He missed a few like Valuev and Ruiz because of Don King.

          I'd like to see Wlad fight Tomasz Adamek and Chris Arreola, since they been in the top ten for much of the past several years.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Freedom2013
            Give Wladimir time, he'll fight most of them.

            2010 Ring rankings:

            Vitali Klitschko
            David Haye
            Alexander Povetkin

            Tomasz Adamek
            Ruslan Chagaev
            Eddie Chambers
            Denis Boytsov
            Nikolay Valuev
            Alexander Dimitrenko
            Chris Arreola

            2008 Ring rankings:

            Wladimir Klitschko
            Samuel Peter
            Oleg Maskaev
            Ruslan Chagaev
            Nikolay Valuev
            Sultan Ibragimov
            Serguei Lyakhovich
            Vladimir Virchis
            Tony Thompson
            Alexander Povetkin

            2005 Ring ratings:

            Chris Byrd
            Hasim Rahman

            James Toney
            Lamon Brewster
            John Ruiz
            Monte Barrett
            Calvin Brock
            Wladimir Klitschko
            Samuel Peter
            Nicolay Valuev


            2004 Ring rankings:

            Chris Byrd
            John Ruiz
            Hasim Rahman
            James Toney
            Monte Barrett
            Andrew Golota
            Fres Oquendo
            Jameel McCline
            Corrie Sanders
            Lamon Brewster


            Wlad's fought just about everybody. He missed a few like Valuev and Ruiz because of Don King.

            I'd like to see Wlad fight Tomasz Adamek and Chris Arreola, since they been in the top ten for much of the past several years.
            rahman? he fought rahman about 5 years after he left the rankings and you include him like some sort of legit win? gtfo!

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            • Weebler I
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              #56
              Originally posted by Freedom2013
              Give Wladimir time, he'll fight most of them.
              The trouble is the division suffers in the mean time. The rest wait around protecting their records in fear of losing their ranking and never getting the big money title shot.

              Poor old Pulev is going to be fighting weak opposition from now until the IBF man up and enforce the bout meaning we don't get Pulev-Chisora or him against any other live opponents.

              The WBC belt opening up seems somewhat exciting for the division because we'll at least get to see two top names fight it out, something we don't see very often at all as things stand.
              Last edited by Weebler I; 12-18-2013, 10:24 PM.

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              • Chunk..
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                #57
                Originally posted by Weebler I
                They'd all love the Klitschko shot. Pulev, Chisora, Fury...all of them. As Fury will tell you, it's the only fight there's any money in in the HW division.

                They're trying to get the vacant WBC belts because Wlad won't give them a shot at the other main belts, preferring to fight Pianeta, Mormeck, Wach and Leapai etc.

                Hell Vitali just sat on the WBC for 14 months after defending against the mighty Manuel Charr, only giving it up when the WBC finally took action.
                Heard it all before. Fury's already ducked out of a fight with Wlad once already. Keeps telling Wlad he's ''not ready yet''. Pulev, Chisora and co only want the fight unless Wlad sets them up for life ££££.

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                • GoldenGloveLove
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                  #58
                  Another chance for Sulaiman to show how much of a hypocrite and drama queen he is?

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Weebler I
                    The trouble is the division suffers in the mean time. The rest wait around protecting their records in fear of losing their ranking and never getting the big money title shot.

                    Poor old Pulev is going to be fighting weak opposition from now until the IBF man up and enforce the bout meaning we don't get Pulev-Chisora or him against any other live opponents.

                    The WBC belt opening up seems somewhat exciting for the division because we'll at least get to see two top names fight it out, something we don't see very often at all as things stand.
                    Very accurate post.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Chunk..
                      Heard it all before. Fury's already ducked out of a fight with Wlad once already. Keeps telling Wlad he's ''not ready yet''. Pulev, Chisora and co only want the fight unless Wlad sets them up for life ££££.
                      Dude only has 20 fights bro. Weebler made a great point about the division suffering. Why cant heavyweights actually develop like Wlad was allowed to do?

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