Mayweather was like Rigondeaux for a long time

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  • -Kev-
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    #51
    Originally posted by PBP
    Its the same thing because:

    1. Arum does not believe he can sell defensive, technically sound fighters to the public
    2. Both fighters drawing power and popularity was not reflective of their level of talent and the media was critical of both

    The other differences I already know about. I know Rigo is not star material because of reasons I already mentioned and Floyd had much bigger upside potential. But when Mayweather was with Top Rank, he was shoved aside because Arum didn't want him touching his cash cows. He didn't believe he could sell him the way he could sell De La Hoya and Cotto.
    Arum was saying Floyd is better than Ali, Robinson, Leonard.

    He outright insulted Rigondeaux as a boring fighter and claims HBO vomits when ever they hear Rigondeaux's name. Never have you heard Arum talk like that about Floyd when he was under Top Rank. Arum hyped up the crap out of Floyd, he doesn't feel the same about Rigo at all.

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #52
      Originally posted by WatchForTheHook
      rite keep thinking this bull****!!! do you know anything about boxing???

      Floyd was an American Olympian ...that was Robbed at the games...

      His father and Uncle were good fighters...and his Uncle was also a Former World Champion....

      Dude was a Child Prodigy!!!

      The Mayweather last name with Boxing is Like "Manning" in Football..
      The father wasn't a Hall of Famer but He groomed his Son's and they went on to become Great players!!!

      You have No Idea what ur talking about Homie!!!!!

      young ppl took to floyd since day one...I'm sure if u do a Breakdown of his Fanbase 90% of them are under 40...

      Floyd also had 3 PPV's before Oscar....

      that did Decent Carlos, Zab, and Gatti...

      Go try to put Rigo on PPV and see if he can sell 5,000
      lmao. entirely false. Dude couldn't even sell out his own hometown pre Oscar.


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      • -PBP-
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        #53
        Originally posted by -Kev-
        Arum was saying Floyd is better than Ali, Robinson, Leonard.

        He outright insulted Rigondeaux as a boring fighter and claims HBO vomits when ever they hear Rigondeaux's name. Never have you heard Arum talk like that about Floyd when he was under Top Rank. Arum hyped up the crap out of Floyd, he doesn't feel the same about Rigo at all.
        So? He said Rigo should be at the top of the pound for pound list and even told the media that Donaire couldn't beat him 2 years ago. He also laughed when someone asked him about Floyd ever being on PPV and said "only against a Latino fighter". He says what he needs to do to promote at that specific point in time. Imagine if Floyd beat one of his cash cows like Cotto or De La Hoya when they were still with him. He would have bashed him the same way to preserve his more lucrative investments.

        He didn't believe in Floyd at all and that's why he insisted on buying himself out and getting out of that situation.

        Arum just does not like defensive fighters. He didn't even believe in Floyd even though he engaged a lot more than guys like Rigo and Terrance Crawford.

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        • -PBP-
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          #54
          And another thing people got to realize with Rigo is there is **** going on behind the scenes that is causing tension:

          1. Rigo rejected a $350K offer to fight in Macau because he felt he should be paid equivalent to Zou Schming

          2. Rigo's co-promoter Caribe has had tension with Bob Arum and even had a lawsuit going on prior to the Marroquin fight

          3. Rigo's contract has a high minimum purse (I think $500K) which is why they are forced to try and put him in HBO headliners when he isn't ready. He's too expensive for an undercard.


          A lot of the talk to the media is probably trying to deflate his ego and make him back down on the demands of him and his team. I like him as a fighter but he and his team are very stubborn and think he is worth a lot more than he really is.

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            #55
            Originally posted by PBP
            And another thing people got to realize with Rigo is there is **** going on behind the scenes that is causing tension:

            1. Rigo rejected a $350K offer to fight in Macau because he felt he should be paid equivalent to Zou Schming

            2. Rigo's co-promoter Caribe has had tension with Bob Arum and even had a lawsuit going on prior to the Marroquin fight

            3. Rigo's contract has a high minimum purse (I think $500K) which is why they are forced to try and put him in HBO headliners when he isn't ready. He's too expensive for an undercard.


            A lot of the talk to the media is probably trying to deflate his ego and make him back down on the demands of him and his team. I like him as a fighter but he and his team are very stubborn and think he is worth a lot more than he really is.
            Seems like it would be wise to get out of there as soon as possible.

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            • 4Corners
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              #56
              Well hopefully Rigondeaux can get out of his Top Rank contract eventually before he turns old, and get some of those fights like Mares and Santa Cruz with Golden Boy.

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                #57
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Seems like it would be wise to get out of there as soon as possible.
                Originally posted by 4Corners
                Well hopefully Rigondeaux can get out of his Top Rank contract eventually before he turns old, and get some of those fights like Mares and Santa Cruz with Golden Boy.
                1 more fight with Top Rank. They should just get some mandatory contender, fight him for cheap and get out of there.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by diddytop
                  floyd was overwhelming people at lower weight classes and had a high ko ratio
                  PEDs is what that was.


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                  • CANELOLUJAH
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                    #59
                    Too bad For Rigo Theirs no Mexican Superstar (Oscar) to fight, for him to make him into a star and their is no Arch Rival (Manny) who the world wants to see him fight that he can just mention his name everytime to promote his own fights.

                    Poor Rigo.

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                    • MoneyMayFan
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                      #60
                      Not even close. Try again

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