Not fighting pacquaio how much will it hurt floyds legacy?

[southpaw106]

if they dont fight

will he always be known as the guy who ducked pac?

[yoz]

They'll both be remembered for avoiding each other.

[KING MEAT]

the only one hurting right now is pacs bank account. $68 million in back taxes godamn.

[Furn]

It definately hurts Floyd more.

Floyds legacy is about being undefeated. 45 have tried and 45 have failed. Hes won titles in 5 division and never lost. But, being undefeated when you didnt fight the guy universally recognized as your biggest challenge and the best guy around, while you where in the same division for 5 years, well, that takes a huge amount of tarnish of that 0.

Pacs lost, hes been KOed by nobodies, hes had draws, lost on points and been knocked out cold, but his legacy isn't about being unbeatable its about the things he could do at his best. Its about winning world titles in 8 divisions, 10 divisions apart.

Another loss for PAc in a Barrera v Hamad type fight (competitive but a clear win) against Floyd doesnt take away his achievements and his great wins.

FLoyd losing to Pac tho takes away that 0, and thats huge.

So Floyd has a lot more to lose by fighting Pac but also more to lose if they never fight.

[kurt0411]

It definately hurts Floyd more.

Floyds legacy is about being undefeated. 45 have tried and 45 have failed. Hes won titles in 5 division and never lost. But, being undefeated when you didnt fight the guy universally recognized as your biggest challenge and the best guy around, while you where in the same division for 5 years, well, that takes a huge amount of tarnish of that 0.

Pacs lost, hes been KOed by nobodies, hes had draws, lost on points and been knocked out cold, but his legacy isn't about being unbeatable its about the things he could do at his best. Its about winning world titles in 8 divisions, 10 divisions apart.

Another loss for PAc in a Barrera v Hamad type fight (competitive but a clear win) against Floyd doesnt take away his achievements and his great wins.

FLoyd losing to Pac tho takes away that 0, and thats huge.

So Floyd has a lot more to lose by fighting Pac but also more to lose if they never fight.

This, couldnt have really out it better myself

Ultimately it will hurt both of them more then they can ever imagine right now

[Espy]

It definately hurts Floyd more.

Floyds legacy is about being undefeated. 45 have tried and 45 have failed. Hes won titles in 5 division and never lost. But, being undefeated when you didnt fight the guy universally recognized as your biggest challenge and the best guy around, while you where in the same division for 5 years, well, that takes a huge amount of tarnish of that 0.

Pacs lost, hes been KOed by nobodies, hes had draws, lost on points and been knocked out cold, but his legacy isn't about being unbeatable its about the things he could do at his best. Its about winning world titles in 8 divisions, 10 divisions apart.

Another loss for PAc in a Barrera v Hamad type fight (competitive but a clear win) against Floyd doesnt take away his achievements and his great wins.

FLoyd losing to Pac tho takes away that 0, and thats huge.

So Floyd has a lot more to lose by fighting Pac but also more to lose if they never fight.

I think you're thinking about this wrong.

Floyd's DRAWING POWER (aka PPV buys) rests on him being undefeated.

Floyd's legacy rests on his skill set and how one sided the vast majority of his victories are. Even if Floyd loses one time before he retires he will still have an amazing legacy, be heralded as the top boxing savant of his generation and will still be considered an ATG. Although you are right to an extent, if Floyd doesn't retire undefeated his legacy will lose a bit of clout.


As far as the effect of not fighting Manny on his legacy, I shared my opinion in another thread:

I really doubt this will have the impact on his legacy that you guys think it will. If Mayweather retires undefeated the argument will always be that he never lost, and if Manny loses any more fights the "tarnish" from not fighting Pac will be even less. You can already see it happening, after JMM who is a future HOFer and P4P great ko'd Manny, a lot of the flak that Mayweather was getting for "ducking" Pac dissipated. Mind you that's after JMM a GREAT fighter ko'd Pac. If Pac loses to anyone lesser than JMM I imagine the effect would even be greater.

A lot of people said SRL would have an asterisk next to the Hagler fight because of how he fought him. That didn't turn out to be true. Decades later I watch HBO classics and no mention of an asterisk, just a win.

Mayweather has the skills to transcend 1 fight or lack thereof; suggesting that the Pac fight not happening would tarnish his legacy is like suggesting that one loss would tarnish his legacy. This is simply just not true.

That being said, I still want the fight to happen and hope it does.

[soul_survivor]

It definately hurts Floyd more.

Floyds legacy is about being undefeated. 45 have tried and 45 have failed. Hes won titles in 5 division and never lost. But, being undefeated when you didnt fight the guy universally recognized as your biggest challenge and the best guy around, while you where in the same division for 5 years, well, that takes a huge amount of tarnish of that 0.

Pacs lost, hes been KOed by nobodies, hes had draws, lost on points and been knocked out cold, but his legacy isn't about being unbeatable its about the things he could do at his best. Its about winning world titles in 8 divisions, 10 divisions apart.

Another loss for PAc in a Barrera v Hamad type fight (competitive but a clear win) against Floyd doesnt take away his achievements and his great wins.

FLoyd losing to Pac tho takes away that 0, and thats huge.

So Floyd has a lot more to lose by fighting Pac but also more to lose if they never fight.

Well put, Pac ultimately has wins over Barrera 2x, JMM 2x, Morales 2x, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Oscar, Ledwabo, in reality Bradley too, these aren't just leadings names, they are some of the best fighters ever (mainly talkin bout MAB, JMM and EM). In m#a lot of those fights Manny was the underdog, he was supposed to lose but he didn't.

Floyd has a deceiving resume, names like Cotto, Mosley, Oscar, Castillo and Corrales. 2 of those names are b level at best and the others were no longer anywhere near their primes.

Those are the facts

[Duckweather Jr.]

Yep floyd safety first, he has potential to be one of the best ever but refuses to test himself, sad.

[MBE]

It harms pacquiao more because he will have gone throughout his career never fighting the p4p best fighter in the sport. Floyd's got that number 1 spot, so his legacy is secured. He doesn't have to chase nobody. That's for the contenders to do if they want to get to the top. I don't think pac has the heart/drive to do it.

[Luilun]

It definately hurts Floyd more.

Floyds legacy is about being undefeated. 45 have tried and 45 have failed. Hes won titles in 5 division and never lost. But, being undefeated when you didnt fight the guy universally recognized as your biggest challenge and the best guy around, while you where in the same division for 5 years, well, that takes a huge amount of tarnish of that 0.

Pacs lost, hes been KOed by nobodies, hes had draws, lost on points and been knocked out cold, but his legacy isn't about being unbeatable its about the things he could do at his best. Its about winning world titles in 8 divisions, 10 divisions apart.

Another loss for PAc in a Barrera v Hamad type fight (competitive but a clear win) against Floyd doesnt take away his achievements and his great wins.

FLoyd losing to Pac tho takes away that 0, and thats huge.

So Floyd has a lot more to lose by fighting Pac but also more to lose if they never fight.

That's a myth Castillo beat his azz