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  • -PBP-
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    #91
    Originally posted by kiaba360
    I would like for Rigo to fight three or four times in 2014, clean out 122 as best he can and then maybe think about going up. Realistically though, he could probably go down to 118 or just stay at 122 and fight everyone who moves up. He just doesn't have the size that lends itself well to moving up. He probably has the skill level to do so, but we won't know for sure til he tries.
    Perfect scenario would be 4 fights next year. Defend his titles at 122 and take a fight at 26 against Donaire or Lomachenko for the payday. The title defenses can be on undercards while the Donaire/Lomo fights will be headliners.

    After the fight at 26, he can go back down and continue to make title defenses.

    Because if you think about 126, Mikey rehydrated to 143 against Juanma, Mares to 137 against Jhonny and Jhonny at 138.

    Those are HUGE weight disadvantages for a 122 pound fighter. The difference in weight is more significant the lower the weight class too.
    Last edited by -PBP-; 12-10-2013, 10:07 AM.

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    • Kagami Taiga
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      #92
      Originally posted by kiaba360
      I would like for Rigo to fight three or four times in 2014, clean out 122 as best he can and then maybe think about going up. Realistically though, he could probably go down to 118 or just stay at 122 and fight everyone who moves up. He just doesn't have the size that lends itself well to moving up. He probably has the skill level to do so, but we won't know for sure til he tries.
      there is nothing to clean out in that division really. and sure he can wait, but whos to say these guys will fight him? and who is really coming from 118 that will?? moreno? mebbe, thats the only fight id be interested in. santa cruz wont happen in all likelihood. who else? the money and the legacy is in the higher divisions. like it or not, its true.

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      • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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        #93
        If Rigo turned pro earlier he would've started at around 112 and he would've been a multi division champ and nobody would be asking him to move up to 126 right now.

        Rigo is 33 years old and his body isn't growing... But I guess that's too hard to understand.


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          #94
          Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
          If Rigo turned pro earlier he would've started at around 112 and he would've been a multi division champ and nobody would be asking him to move up to 126 right now.

          Rigo is 33 years old and his body isn't growing... But I guess that's too hard to understand.


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          seem to keep regurgitating the same thing, but u are still missing the point. what is there to do at 118-122? what fights there get him money or enhance his legacy? what fights would make fans wanna watch? u claim to be a fan but u are basically asking for the guy to waste his potential in obscurity. doesnt make sense to me.

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            #95
            Originally posted by DempseyRollin
            there is nothing to clean out in that division really. and sure he can wait, but whos to say these guys will fight him? and who is really coming from 118 that will?? moreno? mebbe, thats the only fight id be interested in. santa cruz wont happen in all likelihood. who else? the money and the legacy is in the higher divisions. like it or not, its true.
            I'd rather that he fight Avalos/Kiko/Quigg/Frampton/Moreno instead of risking inactivity. With only 13 fights, fighting more often would keep him in the public eye and fans could grow to appreciate/respect his style. If he makes the decision to fight more often, maybe he'll try to step on the gas and stop guys. Frampton/Quigg/Kiko could be profitable if he travels overseas. I would be interested in watching a Garcia/Rigo clash, but the weight difference is clearly an obstacle. It would be a big fight for HBO, maybe they can persuade him to move up to 130.

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              #96
              Mikey wants money. He's going to 140. Arum mentioned Mikey Garcia vs. Mike Alvarado late next year.

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                #97
                Originally posted by DempseyRollin
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                Originally Posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.

                If Rigo turned pro earlier he would've started at around 112 and he would've been a multi division champ and nobody would be asking him to move up to 126 right now.

                Rigo is 33 years old and his body isn't growing... But I guess that's too hard to understand.


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                seem to keep regurgitating the same thing, but u are still missing the point. what is there to do at 118-122? what fights there get him money or enhance his legacy? what fights would make fans wanna watch? u claim to be a fan but u are basically asking for the guy to waste his potential in obscurity. doesnt make sense to me.
                Like I said in my OP, I THINK Rigo will just end up as a would've/could've guy due to turning pro so late. It isn't his fault it is what it is. If he ends up achieving more then more power to him and Cuban boxing. If he stays at 122 so be it, as long as I get to see him fight. I'll be content with however his career ends. In the end he still represented Cuban boxing and what we stand for.

                Rigo's career has satisfied me more than Gamboa's career had before the whole roid scandal.


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                • kiaba360
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                  #98
                  Depending on how next year plays out, we might see Rigo/Lomachenko sooner rather than later.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
                    If Rigo turned pro earlier he would've started at around 112 and he would've been a multi division champ and nobody would be asking him to move up to 126 right now.

                    Rigo is 33 years old and his body isn't growing... But I guess that's too hard to understand.


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                    Some fighters can still move up at an advanced age. Take Hopkins for example.

                    Rigondeaux could move up in weight, atleast to 126. He'd be small for the weight but he could still perform solidly there IMO.

                    Of course he doesn't have to because he would be small at the weight but considering the fact he turned pro so late he may need to move up to get some more wins to add to his legacy.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                      seriosuly??? why is that even a question? two different versions of the same fighter.
                      Agbeko isnt old enough to have a change in temperament. Maybe.. Just maybe Agbeko saw nothing he could exploit vs Rigo as opposed to Mares (who is nowhere near as fast, smart or powerful with single punches as Rigo.)

                      Styles make fights, bro. But at the end of the day Rigo seems a better fighter than Mares and he beat the same guy. Nothing Agbeko showed it was a being shot thing.


                      Or maybe... Just MAYBE Agbeko isnt THAT good and MAYBE Mares isnt in Rigo's league or Donaires for that matter. Rigo has a shorter resume but its better with the Donaire win alone. Mares will likely never beat a guy as good as either Nonito or Rigo. Mares is like Cotto in the Floyd-Pac situation... Good compared to most (lost to a decent fighter) but everyone knows he doesnt beat the top dogs.

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