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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #51
    Originally posted by PBP
    If the money is right he will. Floyd only goes to 154 if the money is right and Rigo will only go to 126 if the money is right.
    yeah but floyd has already gone up from 130, 135, 140, 147, 154

    rigo is stuck at 122,,, he wont go up 4 or 8 lbs unless the money is good, yet people act like he better than floyd that has jumped thru 4 divisions, and goes up to a fifth when its big money,,,

    Rigo wont even move up 1 unless its big money, let alone 4 or 5,,,,


    So i stand by my first statement,,, SMH at all those that think rigo is better p4p than floyd,, even though dude wont move up one division for big money, let alone 4 or 5

    If rigo was so damn better than floyd, he would move up and clear out lomanchenko, donarie rematch, salido, garcia, gamboa, etc

    If he moves up them you can start saying he is on floyd's level, but until then,,,
    SMH at you posters

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    • The Tase
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      #52
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      yeah but floyd has already gone up from 130, 135, 140, 147, 154

      rigo is stuck at 122,,, he wont go up 4 or 8 lbs unless the money is good, yet people act like he better than floyd that has jumped thru 4 divisions, and goes up to a fifth when its big money,,,

      Rigo wont even move up 1 unless its big money, let alone 4 or 5,,,,


      So i stand by my first statement,,, SMH at all those that think rigo is better p4p than floyd,, even though dude wont move up one division for big money, let alone 4 or 5

      If rigo was so damn better than floyd, he would move up and clear out lomanchenko, donarie rematch, salido, garcia, gamboa, etc

      If he moves up them you can start saying he is on floyd's level, but until then,,,
      SMH at you posters


      great post. floyd is what on his 5th or 6th weight class, pacquiao in his 8th or 9th weight classs.

      You understand those guys wanting catch weights as they are already pushing the limits of their bodies in this weight class.

      Rigo can easily fight at 126.

      This is a cowardly scumbag move by rigo.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
        yeah but floyd has already gone up from 130, 135, 140, 147, 154

        rigo is stuck at 122,,, he wont go up 4 or 8 lbs unless the money is good, yet people act like he better than floyd that has jumped thru 4 divisions, and goes up to a fifth when its big money,,,

        Rigo wont even move up 1 unless its big money, let alone 4 or 5,,,,


        So i stand by my first statement,,, SMH at all those that think rigo is better p4p than floyd,, even though dude wont move up one division for big money, let alone 4 or 5

        If rigo was so damn better than floyd, he would move up and clear out lomanchenko, donarie rematch, salido, garcia, gamboa, etc

        If he moves up them you can start saying he is on floyd's level, but until then,,,
        SMH at you posters
        4 or 5 is illogical and I know based on the quality of posts that you would agree.

        Rigo re-hydrates to 125. Floyd re-hydrates to 152. Rigo fighting at 126 is basically the same as Floyd fighting at 154.

        Floyd started his pro career young and has moved up from 130-154 over the course of 16 years. He has the frame built to put the weight on and grow into the division. He's a FULL FLEDGED welterweight now. Just like Rigo is a FULL FLEDGED junior featherweight. He was a bantamweight at age 20 and can probably still make weight at 118. Floyd can't make 130 today.

        He has no obligation to fight at 126 for chump change the same way Floyd has no obligation to fight at 154 for chump change.

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        • CubanGuyNYC
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          #54
          Originally posted by The Tase
          rigo is a punk b*tch for wanting a catch weight when he can easily fight at 126. He has the skill, and the frame to fight at 126 yet still wants a catchweight.

          At least with Floyd and Pac they are small welters and junior welters. Rigo is perfectly fine physically for 126 yet still wants a catch weight.


          scumbag cowardly move.
          Rigo walks around at about 124. He drops a couple of pounds for his weigh-ins and puts them back on for the fight. How many guys can you think of that do that? Most fighters drain down to an unnatural weight, then often re-hydrate at least ten pounds over their division limit. They seek a size advantage.

          Donaire is rumored to have re-hydrated to 140 for his fight with Rigo. He started his career at what, 112? If Guille fought at 126, he'd be taking on guys that can potentially re-hydrate near the welterweight limit. It's one thing to fight sub-par guys like that, but not the top men -- which, presumably, Rigo would be fighting. This is why Guillermo wants a catch-weight, so he can limit the natural size advantage his better opponents might have over him. It's not cowardly. It's smart.

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          • CubanGuyNYC
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            #55
            Originally posted by PBP
            4 or 5 is illogical and I know based on the quality of posts that you would agree.

            Rigo re-hydrates to 125. Floyd re-hydrates to 152. Rigo fighting at 126 is basically the same as Floyd fighting at 154.

            Floyd started his pro career young and has moved up from 130-154 over the course of 16 years. He has the frame built to put the weight on and grow into the division. He's a FULL FLEDGED welterweight now. Just like Rigo is a FULL FLEDGED junior featherweight. He was a bantamweight at age 20 and can probably still make weight at 118. Floyd can't make 130 today.

            He has no obligation to fight at 126 for chump change the same way Floyd has no obligation to fight at 154 for chump change.
            Well put.

            I will also point out that, while Floyd is at 152, his opponents are often significantly heavier. I will also add that, the smaller the man, the more a two pound difference in weight makes.

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            • takingaim
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              #56
              ****** fight when one guy doesn't have a hope of winning. Boxing can be a joke of a sport sometimes.

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                #57
                Originally posted by PBP
                4 or 5 is illogical and I know based on the quality of posts that you would agree.

                Rigo re-hydrates to 125. Floyd re-hydrates to 152. Rigo fighting at 126 is basically the same as Floyd fighting at 154.

                Floyd started his pro career young and has moved up from 130-154 over the course of 16 years. He has the frame built to put the weight on and grow into the division. He's a FULL FLEDGED welterweight now. Just like Rigo is a FULL FLEDGED junior featherweight. He was a bantamweight at age 20 and can probably still make weight at 118. Floyd can't make 130 today.

                He has no obligation to fight at 126 for chump change the same way Floyd has no obligation to fight at 154 for chump change.
                this lol, people act like everyone has the body to move through so many divisions, rigo is 33 man hes not getting any bigger unless hes fat

                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                Well put.

                I will also point out that, while Floyd is at 152, his opponents are often significantly heavier. I will also add that, the smaller the man, the more a two pound difference in weight makes.
                also this, theres a HUGE difference if floyd fight at 150 vs someone who is 165, compared to rigo being 125 fighting a guy thats 140 on fight night.. use common sense guys

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                • -PBP-
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                  Well put.

                  I will also point out that, while Floyd is at 152, his opponents are often significantly heavier. I will also add that, the smaller the man, the more a two pound difference in weight makes.
                  Exactly. And Floyd had the right opponents at 154.

                  Oscar and Cotto = Small 154 pounders with huge $$$$$$

                  Canelo = Big 154 pounder, but doesn't impose his size, with even bigger $$$$$$$$$$$$ that only an idiot would turn down. And he had a catch-weight of 152.

                  You don't see him moving up to fight Erislandy Lara, Carlos Molina, Sergio Martinez, Demetrius Andrade, Paul Williams, Vernon Forrest or Kermit Contron. All were top 3 contenders at the weight from 2007 to now but didn't generate $$$'s so what's the point?

                  And Rigo is fighting at 122 at the age of 33 the same way Floyd was a full fledged welterweight at that same age. Asking him to go up 5 divisions is like asking Floyd to go up to cruiserweight.

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                  • Dr Rumack
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    4 or 5 is illogical and I know based on the quality of posts that you would agree.

                    Rigo re-hydrates to 125. Floyd re-hydrates to 152. Rigo fighting at 126 is basically the same as Floyd fighting at 154.

                    Floyd started his pro career young and has moved up from 130-154 over the course of 16 years. He has the frame built to put the weight on and grow into the division. He's a FULL FLEDGED welterweight now. Just like Rigo is a FULL FLEDGED junior featherweight. He was a bantamweight at age 20 and can probably still make weight at 118. Floyd can't make 130 today.

                    He has no obligation to fight at 126 for chump change the same way Floyd has no obligation to fight at 154 for chump change.
                    Define 'chump change'?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                      Define 'chump change'?
                      Different meaning for a PPV fight at 154 and a featherweight fight on HBO.

                      But in both cases, it means, if Rigo will be compensated the same amount of money fighting at his own weight class, then he would fighting at 126, he should not do it. Just like buying stocks. Compensate me for the risk I'm taking.

                      If he can make more money fighting at 126, he should go. How much more in terms of $$$'s? I would need a detailed history of Rigo's purses and his opponents purses and what other featherweights have been making.

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