Mayweather Pacquaio can happen but no Arum and 50/50 split

[BUNGALOWS]

I think Floyd's the best if that's what you mean. But he's not my favorite fighter. I respect his greatness and I don't see anybody with his skills and talent coming up. I don't really have a favorite fighter. I like Danny Garcia a lot. I like Manny, Ward, GGG. But I'm more for equality. Treat all the fighters the same. I don't see how people can call GGG the best since slice bread then defend him fighting no name bums. Yet bash Floyd for fight quality opposition. Doesn't seem fair to me.

You said Floyd has a better inside game than Pernell Whitaker. You're not just a fan. You're a groupie.

No one said GGG is the best thing since sliced bread. He's a guy that's arguably the best at 160, and wants to fight everyone.

Floyd is arguably the best fighter at WW, but doesn't want to fight the guy to take that "argubaly" away.

[MindBat]

Bottom line is right now Manny needs Floyd to pay his debts. Not the other way around. If he wants the fight, he knows Floyd's number.

[megadeth]

let's conveniently leave out the fact that Cotto had already been obliterated by Margarito and PAC before Floyd even thought about fighting him

Let's also leave out the fact that Cotto himself said that he has lost his confidence after the Margarito loss(before the Pac loss) and only got it back after the win against Margarito. Let's also conveniently leave out the fact that the same Cotto that you are trying to be little is the same Cotto that Pac ducked at 154.

[BUNGALOWS]

No, YOU don't know what you are talking about. Before Manny ever agreed to the 14 days, Floyd had already said that no more cutoffs. OSDT all the way up until the fight. If you want it, come get it. AFTER THAT, Pac came out and said he would accept the 14 days. Now, tell me why Pac accepted the 14 days only after it was taken off the table?

You literally were not talking about the 2010 negotiations, AT ALL. Either way, let me entertain you. Maybe he agreed to the cut off, because, I don't know, HE WANTED THE FIGHT TO HAPPEN. He knew Floyd would be hell bent on that BS, so he called his bluff, and guess what? It was only a bluff.

Floyd also said that if his PPV with Mosley did substantially better numbers than Pac's PPV then there would be no 50/50 either. If Pac wanted the fight on those terms, he should've accepted them when they were offered, not wait until they were no longer available.

Sugar Shane Mosley vs. Clottey. Hmmmm........

[PAC-BOY]

let's conveniently leave out the fact that Cotto had already been obliterated by Margarito and PAC before Floyd even thought about fighting him

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[BUNGALOWS]

Let's also leave out the fact that Cotto himself said that he has lost his confidence after the Margarito loss(before the Pac loss) and only got it back after the win against Margarito. Let's also conveniently leave out the fact that the same Cotto that you are trying to be little is the same Cotto that Pac ducked at 154.

Let's also leave out the fact that you have absolutely no common sense, whatsoever.

Because Cotto said he has his confidence back after beating up and even worse version of Margarito than himself, he's back?

[jetgizo]

You said Floyd has a better inside game than Pernell Whitaker. You're not just a fan. You're a groupie.

No one said GGG is the best thing since sliced bread. He's a guy that's arguably the best at 160, and wants to fight everyone.

Floyd is arguably the best fighter at WW, but doesn't want to fight the guy to take that "argubaly" away.

I think he does have a better inside game. So that makes me a groupie? And taking the emotion out of it I don't know how you can say Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny when he offered him the fight 2x's. That's where you loose me. He even hired Scheafer to negotiate on his behalf because Arum and Haymon can't be in the same room together.
Since Floyd left TR everybody he has went after he's gotten in the ring. Except one man. And when Manny turned down the 50/50 split in 09 it still till this days left a foul taste in my mouth. But hey I understand at the time there was still money to be made at TR with the Cottos, Margo's, and Clotteys of the world. But the way TR ruined Floyd's reputation afterwards I thought was wrong. And if I were Floyd I would never eat off the same plate with Arum again.

[megadeth]

You literally were not talking about the 2010 negotiations, AT ALL. Either way, let me entertain you. Maybe he agreed to the cut off, because, I don't know, HE WANTED THE FIGHT TO HAPPEN. He knew Floyd would be hell bent on that BS, so he called his bluff, and guess what? It was only a bluff.

There have only been 2 negotiations. One in 2009 & very beginning of 2010 and the one in 2012. There was Arum and his fake countdown clock and Greenberg calling to find out Floyd's plans, but that is not a negotiation.

How about I entertain you. Why is it, when Manny doesn't agree to the cutoff, then does later, he wants the fight, yet when Floyd starts at no cutoff and compromises to 14 days to get the fight made, he doesn't??

Sugar Shane Mosley vs. Clottey. Hmmmm........

Well let's see, who's fault was it that Manny decided to pick Clottey as an opponent, Floyd's or Manny's. Let me guess, you blame Floyd for that too, huh?

[BUNGALOWS]

I think he does have a better inside game. So that makes me a groupie? And taking the emotion out of it I don't know how you can say Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny when he offered him the fight 2x's. That's where you loose me. He even hired Scheafer to negotiate on his behalf because Arum and Haymon can't be in the same room together.
Since Floyd left TR everybody he has went after he's gotten in the ring. Except one man. And when Manny turned down the 50/50 split in 09 it still till this days left a foul taste in my mouth. But hey I understand at the time there was still money to be made at TR with the Cottos, Margo's, and Clotteys of the world. But the way TR ruined Floyd's reputation afterwards I thought was wrong. And if I were Floyd I would never eat off the same plate with Arum again.

Manny had Koncz on the phone with Floyd. Floyd didn't want the fight.

Manny was on the phone with Floyd, personally, him self. "What if I lose?"

You see what you're doing? You're choosing one side.

I am too, but I'm choosing the side where the FIGHTER wants the fight. Not the side that's come up with road block after road block.

[megadeth]

Let's also leave out the fact that you have absolutely no common sense, whatsoever.

Because Cotto said he has his confidence back after beating up and even worse version of Margarito than himself, he's back?

You're talking about common sense when your mentioning Pac's fight with Cotto as such a "great win", when Roach himself basically admitted that they were fighting him because he "wasn't the same". You also want to ignore the common sense fact that it was not only Cotto that believed he was back. If that were not the case, why did Pac duck him at 154?