pacquiao only worth $35 mill vs floyd

[maguirre]

Oh without question. But again, you have to quantify that. Do we really know how much Manny is worth? Aside from today, no one even wanted to give us his real PPV #'s! What if you found out he hadn't sold a million since Margarito? What is he worth then?

This guy is probably Ellerbe. hehe...

[Iceta Lives]

Pacquiao can't hit a homerun every pay for view and Floyd can't either. So much depends on the opponent. Pacquiao's fight with Marquez made almost twice as much money as Floyd's fight with Guerrrero.

Floyd's fight with Guerrero did better PPVs than Pacquiao-Rios, but you got a point I guess.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

No, it doesn't show that. You have to quantify it.

manny-floyd is the biggest fight to make in all of boxing and the only one that would do 2 million buys,,,

rios-manny, or floyd-ghost doesnt have the same appeal as manny-floyd

mike tyson wasnt doing huge ppv numbers in the years before the lewis fight, but lewis-tyson still broke records,, same thing with manny-floyd

Manny-floyd would do 2 mil at worst and probably break all records with 2.5 mil buys

No other possible floyd opponent can do that,,

So yes manny's current ppv buys are way down, but he still brings the most money ever if he is floyd's opponent,

they do double what a garcia, broner, khan would bring to the table,,

cotto, shane, did about 1.5 mil with floyd, canelo over 2 mil,,, Manny-floyd is the biggest fight to make and would easily beat all those previous floyd ppv's
Can manny do it alone, no, and can floyd do it with any other fighter currently, no

They both need each other because both are out of big fight blockbuster opponents

manny can fight bradley and do around 900k and jmm5 and do 1.2 mil
floyd can fight khan, broner, garcia and do around 1 mil buys

but together they do 2.3-2.5 million buys with the biggest gate ever,,

So manny does deserve more than cotto, canelo etc... He has proven star power much like tyson did vs lewis


So you can want it quantified but the sum is greater than the parts


who is floyd gonna do 2.3 million buys with now?????

[IMDAZED]

manny-floyd is the biggest fight to make in all of boxing and the only one that would do 2 million buys,,,

rios-manny, or floyd-ghost doesnt have the same appeal as manny-floyd

mike tyson wasnt doing huge ppv numbers in the years before the lewis fight, but lewis-tyson still broke records,, same thing with manny-floyd

Manny-floyd would do 2 mil at worst and probably break all records with 2.5 mil buys

No other possible floyd opponent can do that,,

So yes manny's current ppv buys are way down, but he still brings the most money ever if he is floyd's opponent,

they do double what a garcia, broner, khan would bring to the table,,

cotto, shane, did about 1.5 mil with floyd, canelo over 2 mil,,, Manny-floyd is the biggest fight to make and would easily beat all those previous floyd ppv's
Can manny do it alone, no, and can floyd do it with any other fighter currently, no

They both need each other because both are out of big fight blockbuster opponents

manny can fight bradley and do around 900k and jmm5 and do 1.2 mil
floyd can fight khan, broner, garcia and do around 1 mil buys

but together they do 2.3-2.5 million buys with the biggest gate ever,,

So manny does deserve more than cotto, canelo etc... He has proven star power much like tyson did vs lewis


So you can want it quantified but the sum is greater than the parts


who is floyd gonna do 2.3 million buys with now?????

You don't go to the negotiating table saying, look we can do 2.5m buys so I deserve...x

You go and show why.

Especially when Floyd can say...why should I pay you that? I did 1.4m with Shane Mosley...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

I did 1.5m with Miguel Cotto...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

I did 2.1m with Canelo Alvarez...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

I did 2.4m with Oscar...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

You can't even hit 500K. Open your books and show me what you've done since 2011. Or else...I may or may not hit 2m again. But it looks like you won't be hitting 800k any time soon. Beat it.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You don't go to the negotiating table saying, look we can do 2.5m buys so I deserve...x

You go and show why.

Especially when Floyd can say...why should I pay you that? I did 1.4m with Shane Mosley...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

I did 1.5m with Miguel Cotto...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

I did 2.1m with Canelo Alvarez...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

I did 2.4m with Oscar...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

You can't even hit 500K. Open your books and show me what you've done since 2011. Or else...I may or may not hit 2m again. But it looks like you won't be hitting 800k any time soon. Beat it.

If i was manny, then i would say fine,, go ahead and fight the likes of broner, khan, garcia for half the money that you would make for fighting me,,,

like it or not, floyd needs manny to break ppv records,,,

Once again who is floyd going to fight in 2014,2015 that will break 2 mil buys and probably shatter all ppv records and gate $$$$,,, Only manny can give floyd that

[IMDAZED]

If i was manny, then i would say fine,, go ahead and fight the likes of broner, khan, garcia for half the money that you would make for fighting me,,,

like it or not, floyd needs manny to break ppv records,,,

Once again who is floyd going to fight in 2014,2015 that will break 2 mil buys and probably shatter all ppv records and gate $$$$,,, Only manny can give floyd that

And Floyd would say, fine. Good luck with your $6m check.

[IMDAZED]

This idea that Floyd has to hit 2mil in a fight is laughable. He's the only fighter to do it twice . He doesn't NEED to do 2mil a fight.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You don't go to the negotiating table saying, look we can do 2.5m buys so I deserve...x

You go and show why.

Especially when Floyd can say...why should I pay you that? I did 1.4m with Shane Mosley...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

I did 1.5m with Miguel Cotto...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

I did 2.1m with Canelo Alvarez...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

I did 2.4m with Oscar...that's more than any PPV you've ever done.

You can't even hit 500K. Open your books and show me what you've done since 2011. Or else...I may or may not hit 2m again. But it looks like you won't be hitting 800k any time soon. Beat it.

manny will easily break 800k vs bradley and jmm5,,,,

Im not saying manny should get 50/50 but he should get 60/40 or 65/35

Floyd has no big event opponents in the future except for manny,,

Unlike cotto who had options between canelo and serg,, floyd is left with just manny for a megafight since he has already beaten oscar, shane, cotto, jmm, hatton, canelo,,,

Face it,, floyd is done with blockbuster ppv unless he fights manny

Broner, garcia, lucas, maidana, khan are at the absolute best do 1.2 million buys which is half of what manny-floyd would do

[IMDAZED]

manny will easily break 800k vs bradley and jmm5,,,,

Im not saying manny should get 50/50 but he should get 60/40 or 65/35

Floyd has no big event opponents in the future except for manny,,

Unlike cotto who had options between canelo and serg,, floyd is left with just manny for a megafight since he has already beaten oscar, shane, cotto, jmm, hatton, canelo,,,

Face it,, floyd is done with blockbuster ppv unless he fights manny

Broner, garcia, lucas, maidana, khan are at the absolute best do 1.2 million buys which is half of what manny-floyd would do

Easily my ass. He's gonna fight one of them and lose. And that's that.

[Larry the boss]

Please tell me why people keep blaming the low ppv's on the fight being in China..it still came on American ppv time