pacquiao only worth $35 mill vs floyd

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When I see topics like this I start to realise how deluded people are with regards to how the world works. ''Who else are you going to make those numbers with''- that mentality has more than likely resulted in so much buried talent whilst the Bieber's and Rihanna's of the industry pollute the air ways.

The focus is placed on your bargaining position. If you can bring a guy 10 million, but only he can make you 10 million, he is offering you 1 million. You want to get closer to that 10 million? Start proving that you can make close to that amount without the person you're looking to do business with.

Thank you. I hate to say it but it's a little naive to think that way.

LOL @ telling Floyd Mayweather he can't break 2mil PPVs with anyone else when he knows that if you don't fight him...you can't break 1mil PPVs with anyone period

[marvelousmatt]

Who told you he made $30m for Rios, Arum? Please. I don't believe that man's fairy tales. Just like he tells you about Manny's guarantee always being $20m but when he files it with the NSAC the highest was like $8m. Not buying.

Pacquiao's standard contract has guaranteed him 14 million since around 2008 + PPV % money for about 21-26 million per fight. Pac got that 8 million upfront .


I just want the fight,period. No matter what people think,Pac has the best shot of beating Floyd right now,still. Styles make fights fellas.

Money needs Pac's name recognition with the casuals and it will do over 2.5 million buys & be on Burger King cups,etc..

Next time fellas,get the real #s from sponsorship deals. The $$$ to sponsor the ring for Money vs Canelo was phenomenal by itself !!!


Pac gets 48-52 million. May gets 70...done deal.

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Thats all fine and dandy,,,, not gonna argue that, but the fact remains,, what is the biggest possible fight that could be made in boxing right now,, what is the biggest fight floyd could have in 2014????????

No, it's not all fine and dandy. We recognize that Mayweather-Pacquiao is the biggest fight out there. What I'm trying to tell you is that it doesn't mean that Pacquiao gets $30m. How much did Canelo get paid for hitting 2.2m buys? Huh?

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Pacquiao's standard contract has guaranteed him 14 million since around 2008 + PPV % money for about 21-26 million per fight. Pac got that 8 million upfront .


I just want the fight,period. No matter what people think,Pac has the best shot of beating Floyd right now,still. Styles make fights fellas.

Money needs Pac's name recognition with the casuals and it will do over 2.5 million buys & be on Burger King cups,etc..

Next time fellas,get the real #s from sponsorship deals. The $$$ to sponsor the ring for Money vs Canelo was phenomenal by itself !!!


Pac gets 48-52 million. May gets 70...done deal.

Guaranteed him $14m where? Why has his guarantees been under $9mil for his whole career on paper?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You're missing the point. It's not about what is the biggest fight - it's about who is getting paid what for the biggest fight. This is getting too repetitive.

If you think manny shouldnt be getting paid top dollar for being the B-side to the biggest fight ever in terms of money, then you dont understand economics of the situation,,,

Manny-floyd is the biggest fight,, Its because both guys are involved, Floyd can do the same amount of business with khan or garcia etc,,,

plus it would be bigger than floyd's other blockbuster fights like oscar, canelo, shane, cotto,

floyd should just give manny the same deal that oscar gave floyd,,,,

Floyd would still make 100 million plus and manny/arum would get a cool 40-50 million

Its really not hard to understand,, by trying to lowball manny, you kill the fight and ruin a 100 million dollar payday,,,,
Who cares what manny makes, when floyd will make double whatever it is

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If you think manny shouldnt be getting paid top dollar for being the B-side to the biggest fight ever in terms of money, then you dont understand economics of the situation,,,

Manny-floyd is the biggest fight,, Its because both guys are involved, Floyd can do the same amount of business with khan or garcia etc,,,

plus it would be bigger than floyd's other blockbuster fights like oscar, canelo, shane, cotto,

floyd should just give manny the same deal that oscar gave floyd,,,,

Floyd would still make 100 million plus and manny/arum would get a cool 40-50 million

Its really not hard to understand,, by trying to lowball manny, you kill the fight and ruin a 100 million dollar payday,,,,
Who cares what manny makes, when floyd will make double whatever it is

How much did Canelo get paid for being the B-side to the most revenue generating fight in boxing history?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Thank you. I hate to say it but it's a little naive to think that way.

LOL @ telling Floyd Mayweather he can't break 2mil PPVs with anyone else when he knows that if you don't fight him...you can't break 1mil PPVs with anyone period

[QUOTE=IMDAZED;14001264]Guaranteed him $14m where? Why has his guarantees been under $9mil for his whole career on paper?[/QUOTE]

When I see topics like this I start to realise how deluded people are with regards to how the world works. ''Who else are you going to make those numbers with''- that mentality has more than likely resulted in so much buried talent whilst the Bieber's and Rihanna's of the industry pollute the air ways.

The focus is placed on your bargaining position. If you can bring a guy 10 million, but only he can make you 10 million, he is offering you 1 million. You want to get closer to that 10 million? Start proving that you can make close to that amount without the person you're looking to do business with.

The facts are, floyd isnt breaking 1.2 million buys with all the other options in front of him,,, khan, garcia etc arent bringing anything to the table much like ortiz and ghost

and if your manny, why fight floyd for the same amount of money you could earn fighting jmm, bradley, ruslan etc...

Talking about bargain position,,,,LOL,, manny is the only guy left to bring blockbuster numbers for floyd

who else is floyd gonna make 100 million with one fight,,, floyd gonna make 100 mil vs broner khan, garcia,, Hell no-- Manny is the only one

And if im manny, then its 65/35 or no deal, because what you guys are offering manny is the same amount he can make fighting bradley, rios, ruslan, jmm etc...
And floyd would make less fighting khan, broner, etc


bold: you do realize how guarantees work,, they post the low guarantee and then afterwards you get a cut from the ppv money,,, Thats why floyd gets a guarantee of 32 mil vs khan, and if it does over 1.2 million he will get more like 40-45 million,,, same thing with manny and his guarantee, he makes alot more than what is reported to the NSAC

[Sugar Adam Ali]

How much did Canelo get paid for being the B-side to the most revenue generating fight in boxing history?

how many ppv did canelo ever headline before floyd,,,,

And that ship has sailed, lol,,,,, Is canelo in the running for a floyd fight in 2014

you cant use canelo for leverage in future negotiations since they already fought and that ship has sailed,,,

what canelo eats dont make manny poop

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Guaranteed him $14m where? Why has his guarantees been under $9mil for his whole career on paper?[/QUOTE]




The facts are, floyd isnt breaking 1.2 million buys with all the other options in front of him,,, khan, garcia etc arent bringing anything to the table much like ortiz and ghost

and if your manny, why fight floyd for the same amount of money you could earn fighting jmm, bradley, ruslan etc...

Talking about bargain position,,,,LOL,, manny is the only guy left to bring blockbuster numbers for floyd

who else is floyd gonna make 100 million with one fight,,, floyd gonna make 100 mil vs broner khan, garcia,, Hell no-- Manny is the only one

And if im manny, then its 65/35 or no deal, because what you guys are offering manny is the same amount he can make fighting bradley, rios, ruslan, jmm etc...
And floyd would make less fighting khan, broner, etc


bold: you do realize how guarantees work,, they post the low guarantee and then afterwards you get a cut from the ppv money,,, Thats why floyd gets a guarantee of 32 mil vs khan, and if it does over 1.2 million he will get more like 40-45 million,,, same thing with manny and his guarantee, he makes alot more than what is reported to the NSAC

Of course he does. But Floyd's guarantee is typically around $30m. Manny's is $6m. You do the math.

[marvelousmatt]

Guaranteed him $14m where? Why has his guarantees been under $9mil for his whole career on paper?

Pac's guaranteed money has been at least 14 million since 2008. The "purse" has to be filed with NSAC or any commision within 48 hours of fight. Then it gets ammended for tax purposes with "Guaranteed" money.

Purses for fights must be paid that night.Whereas guaranteed $$ can be paid over a 1-2 month period.

For example..Pac's purse was only listed at 6 million for Mosely filed with NSAC.It was ammended to 20.4 million "guaranteed"...then 27.2 million was filed without taxes coming out. That does not include the $ 2.4 million that Pacquiao got from sponsorship deals.

Money deals with GBP mainly & gets his cake upfront.
May got 41 million purse for Canelo and that will be ammended to ....gulp... $$$ 53 million for that fight after his PPV cut and for tax purposes.

This is also why MoneyMay owed the IRS years ago & Pac is having troubles now.