pacquiao only worth $35 mill vs floyd

[al-Xander]

More blaming other people. How come manny didn't have to do this when Cotto refused the CW? Manny went on to other fights he didn't try again.

face it dude, the ride is over. Casual fans didn't buy this ****. Manny is in dangr of having chavez jr replace him as TR's cash cow and canelo pass him as #2 ppv star.

ALL because he keeps fighting bull**** JWW at ww. He refused to fight floyd and everyone but his fringe fans acknowledge it. You know it but have to frame it as "calling floyd's bluff" to save face.

Did you notice how low the replay #'s were? Fans didn't want to even watch it for free. Wake up dude. Manny is paying the price for refusing to fight floyd.

It would be nice if posters like you who claim to be "boxing" fans did the same thing.

Your biggest problem is not recognizing Floyd phobia of Pacquiao. I repeat, it's never been about anything other than Floyd's fear of losing to Pac. You'll never see it until you recognize it. Floyd will forever come up with excuses not to fight Pac. He's not interested. He pretended he was.

[The Big Dunn]

Your biggest problem is not recognizing Floyd phobia of Pacquiao. I repeat, it's never been about anything other than Floyd's fear of losing to Pac. You'll never see it until you recognize it. Floyd will forever come up with excuses not to fight Pac. He's not interested. He pretended he was.

Yeah, its hard for me to see it when he agreed to manny's unheard of weight penalty and then years later offered him $40 mil to fight.

as you said manny didn't call his bluff. why?

because he didn't want to fight floyd nor take a ped test. why can't you just admit it.

At this point you are the last of a dying breed. your like the last of the birther's that thinks ***** was not born in the US.

Manny's actions can not be defended. He refused to fight floyd, floated justifications, then made rios do the exact same thing.

Believe what you want. Fine with me. You know the truth. Casual Fans know the truth and they are smartening up. when will you?

[al-Xander]

Just ask yourself, if you were Floyd what would you have done to make the fight happen? Assuming you really wanted the fight. Just imagine if Floyd were some fighter like Tyson, Duran, Holmes, etc. You need to go back to using simple common sense. It's not rocket science.

[Carpe Diem]

Nothing shows that Pacquiao is worth $45m today. Or $35m. Or $25m.

He's still the #2 biggest name and superstar in boxing, so he still deserves a guarantee of 30+ million(and PPV cut) at the very least if the fight were to get made. The problem is still Arum. He'll never accept that he doesn't have the leverage to dictate terms anymore and will continue to act like Manny is entitled to get a 50% split, ect*. Arum is in no position to dictate terms, but that won't stop his ego from trying. Floyd has no reason to give in to Arum's terms at this point.

[Biolink]

He said 45/55 & you can lie to yourself about that last part all you want.

One's an American superstar & the other is a international superstar/inspiration.

At this point 60/40 including ppv rights.

Hero of Asia blah blah blah his PPV just bombed. The buying public doesn't give a damn about what you've done, it's what have you done for me lately.

[The Big Dunn]

Just ask yourself, if you were Floyd what would you have done to make the fight happen? Assuming you really wanted the fight. Just imagine if Floyd were some fighter like Tyson, Duran, Holmes, etc. You need to go back to using simple common sense. It's not rocket science.

I'd have given a guy 50/50 whe he didn't desrve it. I would have agreed to all his demands. I'd have offered him 42% more than he ever made.

Holmes gave Cooney 50/50-ccooney signed. tyson gave holyfield a ton of dough-he signed. RL gave duran barely 1.5 for the 1st fight while he made 10 mil-duran signed.

See a patterm. Guys who want to fight take offers no matter what.

Manny didn't.

[Beercules]

I'd have given a guy 50/50 whe he didn't desrve it. I would have agreed to all his demands. I'd have offered him 42% more than he ever made.

Holmes gave Cooney 50/50-ccooney signed. tyson gave holyfield a ton of dough-he signed. RL gave duran barely 1.5 for the 1st fight while he made 10 mil-duran signed.

See a patterm. Guys who want to fight take offers no matter what.

Manny didn't.

2009 Pacquiao deserved more than a flat fee of 40mil and 0% of the PPV cut. I don't know how you can even argue this.

The testing I don't think anyone knows what actually happened, but from my understanding Floyd said 14 days, manny said no then later agreed then Floyd flipped the script and said 0 days; manny said no.

If that's not what happened then please elaborate. And feel free to try and justify Floyd low balling Pacquiao with a flat fee and trying to keep all of the PPV earnings.

[IMDAZED]

He's still the #2 biggest name and superstar in boxing, so he still deserves a guarantee of 30+ million(and PPV cut) at the very least if the fight were to get made. The problem is still Arum. He'll never accept that he doesn't have the leverage to dictate terms anymore and will continue to act like Manny is entitled to get a 50% split, ect*. Arum is in no position to dictate terms, but that won't stop his ego from trying. Floyd has no reason to give in to Arum's terms at this point.

You have to quantify that though. Can't just say, I'm #2 so I deserve $30m. You have to show what you bring to the table in terms of $$$.

[al-Xander]

BD,
See what I meant? All what you're saying is you're really not interested in the fight. Interest comes from wanting to knock the guy out in the ring. Forget about giving fans what they want. Or the spirit of the sport nonsense. Just think about the challenge of beating the superstar of boxing. That's genuine interest, not some silly excuses. Your guy is scared.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You have to quantify that though. Can't just say, I'm #2 so I deserve $30m. You have to show what you bring to the table in terms of $$$.

manny-floyd is a guarantee of 2.2 mil ppv buys,,,, no doubt


floyd can still do big business with khan, alexander, garcia etc but those fights top out at 1.2 mil buys,,

Floyd is fresh out of A-level opponents, he already fought oscar, shane, jmm, cotto, canelo,,,, Manny is the only one left that can bring a huge name and huge blockbuster buyrates,, Its still the #1 fight in boxing and its not even close..

No other floyd opponent is going to bring to the table the amount of fans and money that manny will bring

so floyd can pay khan garcia, broner 4-5 million and make 40 million twice a year for a total of 75-80 mil a year income, or he can fight manny and give him a 60/40 split and still make 80-120 million for just one fight,,,

Manny may have seen better days, but he is still by far the most lucrative option for floyd at this point, and its not even close