Who wins hagler vs bhop prime vs prime mw

[djtmal]

Prime Marvelous One in a ud or tko. Atg middleweight vs a very good middle here

[Ham Porter]

The fact that you don't know that Hagler had the tuffer ride to get to the top tier competitors should have told me to stop! I you don't understand that the men you mentioned were tuff tests for any middleweight coming up tells me you've only read about the "champs" and not the lower end of the top 15 that you must get by to accend. Hagler lost two of those encounters but redeemed himself with terrific wins in rematces. Done with you, you picked a name that has some history and knowledge with it but I can tell you for a fact that Mr. Lou Duva would not be thrilled with your "fake name" or alias.
Fake sounds better in this instance! Good night and I'll avoid you. Ray.

Top ten fighters are generally of greater note than those of the top fifteen, no? When people refer to top contenders, they're almost always refering to the top ten, not the top fifteen. Sorry I don't accept The Worm and the third best Sugar Ray as being "great fighters."


And if you're going to act this pissy every single time someone takes a contrasting viewpoint to yours, you'd probably be best to avoid me.

[Bushbaby]

On the fence with this 1. B-Hop is the taller rangier fighter. He's slightly more methodical and preffers to be in control of the fight.

Hagler is shorter, more compact/powerful and fought southpaw. He's no problem going the distance and can easily force the fight.

If hagler starts fast and keeps pressing the fight, he can definitely force B-Hop out of his comfort zone and win. But if Hagler starts the fight playing around like he did with SRL, Hop will be to far ahead by the time he gets the ball rolling.

In short, the Hagler that fought Hearns wins a ud.

The one that played with SRL looses.

[hogey]

Hagler wins this for me, just so good in all departments and in his prime would have had a little too much for Hopkins in a very ugly fight. Except for RJJ, Hopkins never shared a ring with anyone on the same level as Hagler and would never have taken as much punishment as the relentless Hagler would dish out once he got going. Hopkins was and still is a great fighter but the likes of SRL, Hagler, Hearns, RJJ were another level above Hopkins.

[Bushbaby]

Hagler wins this for me, just so good in all departments and in his prime would have had a little too much for Hopkins in a very ugly fight. Except for RJJ, Hopkins never shared a ring with anyone on the same level as Hagler and would never have taken as much punishment as the relentless Hagler would dish out once he got going. Hopkins was and still is a great fighter but the likes of SRL, Hagler, Hearns, RJJ were another level above Hopkins.

I think Hop has his way with SRL. You must take size into consideration. Hop is bigger than both.

[hogey]

Prime Marvelous One in a ud or tko. Atg middleweight vs a very good middle here

This sums it up nicely.

[RubenSonny]

On the fence with this 1. B-Hop is the taller rangier fighter. He's slightly more methodical and preffers to be in control of the fight.

Hagler is shorter, more compact/powerful and fought southpaw. He's no problem going the distance and can easily force the fight.

No this just isn't true, Hagler was the rangier fighter and was mostly a methodical fighter too. He certainly had a better and more prolific jab than Hopkins.

If hagler starts fast and keeps pressing the fight, he can definitely force B-Hop out of his comfort zone and win. But if Hagler starts the fight playing around like he did with SRL, Hop will be to far ahead by the time he gets the ball rolling.

In short, the Hagler that fought Hearns wins a ud.

The one that played with SRL looses.

Well neither of those fights was prime Hagler and both are a bad representation of a typical Hagler, even so Hopkins never possessed the ability of Leonard to carry out that game plan really plus it wasn't like Leonard was too far ahead a lot of people thought Hagler deserved the decision.

[hogey]

I think Hop has his way with SRL. You must take size into consideration. Hop is bigger than both.

I dont think thats much of an issue Hagler had a massive reach for a middleweight 75" (exactly the same as Hopkins) and was bull like strong certainly a more powerful fighter than Hopkins. The fact that Leonard dealt with Hagler and Hearns who had an even bigger reach and was the same height and more power make me think Hopkins had nothing to trouble SRL and gets massively outworked.

[Bushbaby]

No this just isn't true, Hagler was the rangier fighter and was mostly a methodical fighter too. He certainly had a better and more prolific jab than Hopkins.



Well neither of those fights was prime Hagler and both are a bad representation of a typical Hagler, even so Hopkins never possessed the ability of Leonard to carry out that game plan really plus it wasn't like Leonard was too far ahead a lot of people thought Hagler deserved the decision.

Hopkins is 6-1, Hagler was 5-10. They may have the same reach, but Hop still has the advantage of range punching down as opposed to Hagler punching up.

[Bushbaby]

I dont think thats much of an issue Hagler had a massive reach for a middleweight 75" (exactly the same as Hopkins) and was bull like strong certainly a more powerful fighter than Hopkins. The fact that Leonard dealt with Hagler and Hearns who had an even bigger reach and was the same height and more power make me think Hopkins had nothing to trouble SRL and gets massively outworked.

I wouldn't say SRL "dealt" with Hagler. Hagler had a lot to do with that himself starting the fight the way he did. Did he start slow and orthodox?? I'm not entirely sure without a refresher, but I knew he did something ******. By the time he cranked up the pace, it was too close to secure victory.