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  • #11
    Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
    Pulev is going to fight D-level fighters waiting around hoping Wlad fights him sometime never.

    This is the problem with having one champion in a division.

    the problem is having 4 world titles & not 1. if there was only one world title he would have to fight his mandatory but since he has multiple belts there are multiple mandatories & he should have to fight them all first before making a voluntary. 1 champion= 1voluntary, then one mandatory, repeat... no need for 4 titles because all it does is water down the rankings & the best fights are not made...

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    • #12
      Originally posted by joe strong View Post
      no he just needs to start paying guys more & get rid of the multiple rematch clauses. the thing is the german fans pack the house no matter who he is fighting so he can fight butterbean & still make a boat load of money. i'm sorry but there are lots of fights out there for him but he refuses to compensate guys to get in the ring with him. look at abdusalamov. he got $40000 & now look at him. who in their right mind would want to fight a klitschko 3 times in a row & not get paid handsomely for it?
      Do Klitschko's pay their opponents poorly? I thought Chambers made a cool million and I haven't heard other guys complaining.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by jreckoning View Post
        Do Klitschko's pay their opponents poorly? I thought Chambers made a cool million and I haven't heard other guys complaining.
        maybe i'm old school but peter mcneely got 500000 to fight Tyson. bruce seldon 3.2 million, Michael grant 5 million to fight lennox, etc... chisora got something like 450000 to fight vitali. wlad made the IBF reduce thompson's share from 75\25 split to 85\15 split. they are cherry picking opponents & paying them less then what they should be. chambers was his mandatory so it was a purse split. you get a HW title shot you should be getting a minimum 7 digit check. just my opinion & it's the way it use to be. i know the world economy is weaker now so that probably has contributed to the decline in purses...

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        • #14
          Originally posted by joe strong View Post
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          the problem is having 4 world titles & not 1. if there was only one world title he would have to fight his mandatory but since he has multiple belts there are multiple mandatories & he should have to fight them all first before making a voluntary. 1 champion= 1voluntary, then one mandatory, repeat... no need for 4 titles because all it does is water down the rankings & the best fights are not made...
          If there was one champ who fights twice a year, that means he only takes care of one mandatory per year. The rest of the guys fight "bums" with no incentive to take risks for basic pay in fear of falling down the rankings.

          Really, when a champ holds 3 belts there should be no such thing as a voluntary, the mandatories from each organisation should be enforced. The problem is, they aren't.

          If the other belts were freed up we'd be watching entertaining bouts like Pulev v Stiverne or Fury v Povetkin for world titles. Instead, they all just wait around avoiding each other hoping for a Klitschko down the line. It's ruining the heavyweight division.

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          • #15
            Pulev's got these big clowns running scared.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
              If there was one champ who fights twice a year, that means he only takes care of one mandatory per year. The rest of the guys fight "bums" with no incentive to take risks for basic pay in fear of falling down the rankings.

              Really, when a champ holds 3 belts there should be no such thing as a voluntary, the mandatories from each organisation should be enforced. The problem is, they aren't.

              If the other belts were freed up we'd be watching entertaining bouts like Pulev v Stiverne or Fury v Povetkin for world titles. Instead, they all just wait around avoiding each other hoping for a Klitschko down the line. It's ruining the heavyweight division.
              most HW champions only fight twice\year. 1 mandatory & one voluntary. others have fought more then twice\year but their level of opposition is usually weaker that year or they had a fight in January, july & December... with one title, only one set of rankings. you want a title shot you got to beat the guy ahead of you... it's that simple. then the best fights would be made. you want to climb then you beat the guys ahead of you. they could have 4 or 8 man eliminations tournys etc...
              Last edited by joe strong; 12-03-2013, 08:43 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by beez721 View Post
                I dont think hes ducking pulev. pulev's style is actually tailor made for wlad. hes not an explosive puncher by any means and is more of a technician. he kinda reminds me of chageav to a point. anyway,,,if wlad takes on a soft touch in his next defense then the duck may be a valid point but I just dont see anything for wlad to fear in pulev
                Pulev is taller and heavier than Chagaev and he has longer reach. This makes for a big difference. His style is completely different as well. Hes not an undersized heavyweight, hes a real one and physically hes verry strong.
                I want to see this fight.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                  maybe i'm old school but peter mcneely got 500000 to fight Tyson. bruce seldon 3.2 million, Michael grant 5 million to fight lennox, etc... chisora got something like 450000 to fight vitali. wlad made the IBF reduce thompson's share from 75\25 split to 85\15 split. .
                  What a selfish ****!!! Thats why i dont like them Klitschko-****s.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                    most HW champions only fight twice\year. 1 mandatory & one voluntary. others have fought more then twice\year but their level of opposition is usually weaker that year or they had a fight in January, july & December... with one title, only one set of rankings. you want a title shot you got to beat the guy ahead of you... it's that simple. then the best fights would be made. you want to climb then you beat the guys ahead of you. they could have 4 or 8 man eliminations tournys etc...
                    and if the guy ahead of you refuses to fight?

                    You're back to relying on corrupt sanctioning bodies taking action. There's no easy answer but unfortunately in addition to Wlad holding 4 titles, Vitali holds the WBC crown and he won't defend it either, getting extension after extension. It's a joke.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                      If there was one champ who fights twice a year, that means he only takes care of one mandatory per year. The rest of the guys fight "bums" with no incentive to take risks for basic pay in fear of falling down the rankings.

                      Really, when a champ holds 3 belts there should be no such thing as a voluntary, the mandatories from each organisation should be enforced. The problem is, they aren't.

                      If the other belts were freed up we'd be watching entertaining bouts like Pulev v Stiverne or Fury v Povetkin for world titles. Instead, they all just wait around avoiding each other hoping for a Klitschko down the line. It's ruining the heavyweight division.

                      You're right. However, if the WBC belt is freed up, surely Wladimir is one the first who deserves a crack at it? He is, after all, the holder of the other HW straps.

                      My fear is that the WBC will 'give' the belt to Stiverne or Wilder, and they'll keep it hostage until Wladimir retires. Its a vicious circle.

                      As you say, mandatories SHOULD be take precedent over voluntary defences. In Wladimir's case, so few guys want to fight him, that he's having to look elsewhere for opposition. There are plenty of good fights on offer in the HW division, it's just a shame promoters are unwilling to make them.

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