Comments Thread For: Pulev Looks To Impress With an Eye on Klitschko

[SN!PER]

As crappy as Pulev is, he's still done better in 18 fights than just about anyone in the HW division right now. He was supposed to fight in 5 days but his opponent pulled out. Too many duckers.

[Weebler I]

You don't fight the guy below you then you lose your rank. As i said they could have the top 2 guys fight to find #1 & 3-10 fight elimination style tourney. Getting in the top 10 would require world class wins. I'm sure they could keep a few regional belts to help decide rankings. Anything is better then super duper champions & ruby belts...it would be tricky on the voluntary side of things. I don't really know what you could do...

Right, and what happens when they blame each other for the fight not happening Floyd-Pac style? Whose rank does the sanctioning body take away?

You're right. However, if the WBC belt is freed up, surely Wladimir is one the first who deserves a crack at it? He is, after all, the holder of the other HW straps.

My fear is that the WBC will 'give' the belt to Stiverne or Wilder, and they'll keep it hostage until Wladimir retires. Its a vicious circle.

As you say, mandatories SHOULD be take precedent over voluntary defences. In Wladimir's case, so few guys want to fight him, that he's having to look elsewhere for opposition. There are plenty of good fights on offer in the HW division, it's just a shame promoters are unwilling to make them.

Do you believe that? Klitschko is the draw in the division, comparatively speaking there's little money in alternative bouts. As I see it, they're all waiting and wanting to fight Wlad.

[Ravens Fan]

I used abdusamov as an example of what could be the end result & he got $40000. I never said he fought them i just said who would want to have 3 fights in a row with a klitschko. HWs make a fraction of what they use to make. Lots of contract talks in the 1700 HW fights i've posted. Have i seen a contract? No but purses are often posted on the internet, on the fight network ticker, talked about on broadcasts.

Abdusalamov could have been paid $5000 or $200,000 and he would still be in a coma, I just don't understand what that has to do with the Klit bros. Is it because K2 promoted the fight? Even so I would bet that the purse was his biggest to date, and I hope he recovers and lives a long and healthy life. As far as the contracts are concerned you really have no idea what was in them. So you just repeat what you have heard with no knowledge if the facts are true, correct?

[joe strong]

and if the guy ahead of you refuses to fight?

You're back to relying on corrupt sanctioning bodies taking action. There's no easy answer but unfortunately in addition to Wlad holding 4 titles, Vitali holds the WBC crown and he won't defend it either, getting extension after extension. It's a joke.

You don't fight the guy below you then you lose your rank. As i said they could have the top 2 guys fight to find #1 & 3-10 fight elimination style tourney. Getting in the top 10 would require world class wins. I'm sure they could keep a few regional belts to help decide rankings. Anything is better then super duper champions & ruby belts...it would be tricky on the voluntary side of things. I don't really know what you could do...

[joe strong]

Can I ask how many contracts have you actually read? And even if half of it is true the Klit bros are hardly the only ones who have ever conducted business that way. I also believe the reason you hear so much about contracts when it comes to the Klit bros is simply because they promote themselves. And why shouldn't they? I also must have missed something because I didn't realize that Abdusalamov had fought Wlad or Vitali.

I used abdusamov as an example of what could be the end result & he got $40000. I never said he fought them i just said who would want to have 3 fights in a row with a klitschko. HWs make a fraction of what they use to make. Lots of contract talks in the 1700 HW fights i've posted. Have i seen a contract? No but purses are often posted on the internet, on the fight network ticker, talked about on broadcasts.

[Ravens Fan]

no he just needs to start paying guys more & get rid of the multiple rematch clauses. the thing is the german fans pack the house no matter who he is fighting so he can fight butterbean & still make a boat load of money. i'm sorry but there are lots of fights out there for him but he refuses to compensate guys to get in the ring with him. look at abdusalamov. he got $40000 & now look at him. who in their right mind would want to fight a klitschko 3 times in a row & not get paid handsomely for it?

Can I ask how many contracts have you actually read? And even if half of it is true the Klit bros are hardly the only ones who have ever conducted business that way. I also believe the reason you hear so much about contracts when it comes to the Klit bros is simply because they promote themselves. And why shouldn't they? I also must have missed something because I didn't realize that Abdusalamov had fought Wlad or Vitali.

[yoz]

If there was one champ who fights twice a year, that means he only takes care of one mandatory per year. The rest of the guys fight "bums" with no incentive to take risks for basic pay in fear of falling down the rankings.

Really, when a champ holds 3 belts there should be no such thing as a voluntary, the mandatories from each organisation should be enforced. The problem is, they aren't.

If the other belts were freed up we'd be watching entertaining bouts like Pulev v Stiverne or Fury v Povetkin for world titles. Instead, they all just wait around avoiding each other hoping for a Klitschko down the line. It's ruining the heavyweight division.

You're right. However, if the WBC belt is freed up, surely Wladimir is one the first who deserves a crack at it? He is, after all, the holder of the other HW straps.

My fear is that the WBC will 'give' the belt to Stiverne or Wilder, and they'll keep it hostage until Wladimir retires. Its a vicious circle.

As you say, mandatories SHOULD be take precedent over voluntary defences. In Wladimir's case, so few guys want to fight him, that he's having to look elsewhere for opposition. There are plenty of good fights on offer in the HW division, it's just a shame promoters are unwilling to make them.

[Weebler I]

most HW champions only fight twice\year. 1 mandatory & one voluntary. others have fought more then twice\year but their level of opposition is usually weaker that year or they had a fight in January, july & December... with one title, only one set of rankings. you want a title shot you got to beat the guy ahead of you... it's that simple. then the best fights would be made. you want to climb then you beat the guys ahead of you. they could have 4 or 8 man eliminations tournys etc...

and if the guy ahead of you refuses to fight?

You're back to relying on corrupt sanctioning bodies taking action. There's no easy answer but unfortunately in addition to Wlad holding 4 titles, Vitali holds the WBC crown and he won't defend it either, getting extension after extension. It's a joke.

[Tobi.G]

maybe i'm old school but peter mcneely got 500000 to fight Tyson. bruce seldon 3.2 million, Michael grant 5 million to fight lennox, etc... chisora got something like 450000 to fight vitali. wlad made the IBF reduce thompson's share from 75\25 split to 85\15 split. .

What a selfish ****!!! Thats why i dont like them Klitschko-****s.

[Tobi.G]

I dont think hes ducking pulev. pulev's style is actually tailor made for wlad. hes not an explosive puncher by any means and is more of a technician. he kinda reminds me of chageav to a point. anyway,,,if wlad takes on a soft touch in his next defense then the duck may be a valid point but I just dont see anything for wlad to fear in pulev

Pulev is taller and heavier than Chagaev and he has longer reach. This makes for a big difference. His style is completely different as well. Hes not an undersized heavyweight, hes a real one and physically hes verry strong.
I want to see this fight.