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  • Los Zetas
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    #21
    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
    What a damn coincidence, I said the same thing last night!
    LOL.

    His trainer did say break the body and control where Bellew walks, but he was unable to. I hope Stevenson developes his right hand and a bit more body work/cutting off the ring that allows his left to be in use. He is pretty predictable right now, and his power is helping him.

    I have never really followed the LHW scene but it seems quite weak right now. Maybe it always was? What do you think?

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    • straightleft
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      #22
      These attributes below are physical advantages and natural gifts probably genetically encoded in your system. You either born with it or none at all.

      Power
      Speed
      Reach Advantage
      Height Advantage
      Iron Chin
      etc..

      Below are skills and emotions you learned from hard training and experiences.

      Timing
      Footwork
      Great offense
      Great defense
      Determination
      Courage
      Ring IQ
      etc...

      Example:

      Pacquiao

      Power
      Speed
      Footwork
      Great offense
      Determination
      Courage
      Iron chin

      Mayweather
      Speed
      Great defense
      Iron chin
      Timing
      Determination
      Ring IQ
      Last edited by straightleft; 12-01-2013, 09:57 AM.

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      • SplitSecond
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        #23
        Originally posted by DislikeESVideos
        LOL.

        His trainer did say break the body and control where Bellew walks, but he was unable to. I hope Stevenson developes his right hand and a bit more body work/cutting off the ring that allows his left to be in use. He is pretty predictable right now, and his power is helping him.

        I have never really followed the LHW scene but it seems quite weak right now. Maybe it always was? What do you think?
        he did, bellew ducked towards stevensons left cross after stevenson got bellews attention focused on the right hook

        and stevenson didn't remind me of pacquiao at all, pacquiao has always loved his combinations, and getting off first, 1-2-1-2, his jabs are much better

        stevenson is like a more triggerhappy rigondeaux
        Last edited by SplitSecond; 12-01-2013, 09:47 AM.

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #24
          Originally posted by TheHolyCross
          he did, bellew ducked towards stevensons left cross after stevenson got bellews attention focused on the right hook

          and stevenson didn't remind me of pacquiao at all, pacquiao has always loved his combinations, and getting off first, 1-2-1-2, his jabs are much better

          stevenson is like a more triggerhappy rigondeaux
          It's not that, we acknowledge that he threw combinations but at one point Pacquiao's game was based off of setting the straight left hand up.
          Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 12-01-2013, 10:02 AM.

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          • Doctor_Tenma
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            #25
            Originally posted by DislikeESVideos
            LOL.

            His trainer did say break the body and control where Bellew walks, but he was unable to. I hope Stevenson developes his right hand and a bit more body work/cutting off the ring that allows his left to be in use. He is pretty predictable right now, and his power is helping him.

            I have never really followed the LHW scene but it seems quite weak right now. Maybe it always was? What do you think?
            Its weak, this is why ward needs to move up although I can't blame him honestly. A Ward-Golovkin fight is pretty interesting for me.

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            • slimshandy69
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              #26
              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
              Its weak, this is why ward needs to move up although I can't blame him honestly. A Ward-Golovkin fight is pretty interesting for me.
              you say its weak but a few years back p4p number 2 chad Dawson was knocking around, now hes not even top 5

              This suggests its very strong and with ward moving up its becomes very legit.

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              • Bigg Rigg
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                #27
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                Power isn't a skill, it's an attribute. That being said, you're right that anyone with big power is assumed to have no skill on NSB.
                If you got pop you got no skill . If you like to mix it up you got no skills and just a bar room brawler. Nsb is a joke sometimes.

                Originally posted by slimshandy69
                Both Adonis stevens and Kovalaev are very skilful boxers. Sure they are no Wladamirs or Floyd mayweathers.

                But Again Jim watt describes them as plodding power punchers. Why is it the pundits and the general public wont accept that great power is a skill in itself.?
                I dislike Floyd just as much as anyone but don't put Wlad and Floyd together when talking about skills. I'm sorry bro but just don't.

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                • slimshandy69
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Tommy Gun
                  If you got pop you got no skill . If you like to mix it up you got no skills and just a bar room brawler. Nsb is a joke sometimes.



                  I dislike Floyd just as much as anyone but don't put Wlad and Floyd together when talking about skills. I'm sorry bro but just don't.
                  a gold medal, and lost a lot less rounds than Floyd shows that in gfact WLAD is more skilful than Floyd. plus he doesn't have catch weights and has a better ko ratio.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by slimshandy69
                    a gold medal, and lost a lot less rounds than Floyd shows that in gfact WLAD is more skilful than Floyd. plus he doesn't have catch weights and has a better ko ratio.
                    Still not as skilled as Floyd. Wlads last performance was a disgrace to boxing.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by slimshandy69
                      a gold medal, and lost a lot less rounds than Floyd shows that in gfact WLAD is more skilful than Floyd. plus he doesn't have catch weights and has a better ko ratio.
                      Too many posters on here that don't take themselves seriously, the trolling is obvious man just quit it. Or at least be funny with it......

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