Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: Groves Impressive, Froch Was Exposed

[amayseng]

We already knew froch cant box
A shot shot shot Taylor was easily out boxing him 10-1 before being stopped

DirreL beat him got robbed

a past prime kessler beat him

WARD embarrassed him 12-0 easy work

[IronDanHamza]

Calzaghe beats everyone on Froch's resume, and beats Froch too. Too skilled, slick and fast.

Once again debatable albeit likely. Doesn't mean much though.

Their resume's are at the very least debatable as to which is better.

[IronDanHamza]

We already knew froch cant box
A shot shot shot Taylor was easily out boxing him 10-1 before being stopped

DirreL beat him got robbed

a past prime kessler beat him

WARD embarrassed him 12-0 easy work

Not at all.

What's your scorecard?

[Doctor_Tenma]

Of course Froch isn't a "true great" or an ATG. But he's up there with Britain's best.

Groves didn't show us anything we didn't already know about Froch, he didn't expose anything.

We know Froch is easy to hit and not very technical and has a lot of flaws.

We also know he makes up for that with his chin, toughness, stamina, heart and sheer will to win. And looked on his way to turning it round with these abilities.

Warren has always had this defensive view on Froch since he tried to get Calzaghe in the ring with him in 2008 and when he wouldn't went on to insult him in the press.

Now they have comparable resume's, and the comparisons have formed on who's the greater of the two he has taken it to the next level.

Exactly, Groves himself said all this so this expose stuff is laughable. I hope we get a rematch because while Groves has the tools which I acknowledged initially, I'm still favoring Froch.

[DAZED 2.0]

This bad stoppage has almost been as much a raw deal to Froch as it was to Groves. Almost. I don't know what Warren means by exposed, lest we forget that Froch was whitewashed by Ward and outboxed by a faded Jermain Taylor. But like he did in that Taylor fight, he overcame some rough moments to turn the tide against Groves and, who knows? Maybe if there wasn't an early stoppage, Froch would've put him away anyway. What would be said about him then?

[IronDanHamza]

Exactly, Groves himself said all this so this expose stuff is laughable. I hope we get a rematch because while Groves has the tools which I acknowledged initially, I'm still favoring Froch.

I'm definitely favouring Froch.

Groves was fading fast and the momentum was clearly shifting.

I believe he'd have stopped him if not that round, in one of the last 3.

[Boxing Goat]

The Scott and Groves stoppages are not comparable. Scott had himself to blame for staying on his knees until 9, which made up the referees mind.

Groves however was robbed because the referee intervened the first time he took a few shots in succession, even though he was clearly still trying to defend himself.

That's BS and you know it. All smart boxers do that to gather themselves. The ref clearly saw he had a perfectly clear head, was looking around the ring and was clearly waiting for the count of 8 or 9 to go to his feet. The ref took the opportunity to ensure Chisora's win.

This is not even close to being debatable. That stoppage was complete ****.

[Boxing Goat]

Surely it's debatable.

I'm afraid that's not debatable at all. Calzaghe would have annihilated Froch in the fashion he did Lacy. Froch has power and determination but he's too slow and not close to being skilled enough to give Joe any trouble whatsoever.

[Boxing Goat]

I'm definitely favouring Froch.

Groves was fading fast and the momentum was clearly shifting.

I believe he'd have stopped him if not that round, in one of the last 3.

This is possible but based on his the fight had played out before, Groves could have easily just recovered and caught Froch with a big shot as well.
Lets not forget that the KD in round one happened as Froch was landing his own shot.

[IronDanHamza]

I'm afraid that's not debatable at all.

Except it is.