Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Beating Rios Don't Get You a Floyd Fight!

[The Big Dunn]

You still don't get it. The argument is from Sr is that Pac has to do something more to get a shot at Floyd. That is NOT true. If Guerrero deserved the fight, so does Pac. THAT is not in the least bit arguable!!!! PERIOD! And no one said anything about elevating him past JMM or Bradley!!! Guys who get title shots are in the top 10, not just in the top 2 or 3.

dude I'm agreeing with your position-but I also understand floyd sr's point even though I don't agree with it.

Ghost got the fight only because he was the mando for the wbc belt. Manny is not floyd's mando. Ghost didn't DESERVE the fight-he put himself in poisition for it by beating aydin and berto.

Manny is IMO already in position for a floyd fight. If you are soemone that doesn't think he is in position for a floyd fight beating Rios doesn't put him in position for it.

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[QuebecSTAR2]

SR. is a coward, he used a baby for human shield and beats on women.

JR. steroid froid has the same dna as his father, a coward, beats on women.
he prefers big black **** instead and recently had his gender surgically changed.

[richardt]

dude I'm agreeing with your position-but I also understand floyd sr's point even though I don't agree with it.

Ghost got the fight only because he was the mando for the wbc belt. Manny is not floyd's mando. Ghost didn't DESERVE the fight-he put himself in poisition for it by beating aydin and berto.

Manny is IMO already in position for a floyd fight. If you are soemone that doesn't think he is in position for a floyd fight beating Rios doesn't put him in position for it.

Again, I don't care if Guerrero earned it or not, put himself in a position or not. Pac deserves it as much if not more. And "Someone that doesn't think he is in a position" - I could care less if someone thinks he doesn't deserve a shot, because one guy who thought that also said Pac did not look good in his last fight which is ridiculous! Again, Pac is rated high, has earned the shot, deserves the shot, public demand, money, Boxing needs it, all of those elements count and take half of them away and he still deserves it as much as anyone. Sr is full of crap. End of story.

[hitking]

JMM beat him once out of 4 tries. If anything they are equal. I think PAC is Better but that's me. And yea bob n tr was a problem too but Floyd never wanted to fight IMO. There was always something. And a way to start trying to make the fight is by showing some interest. Manny did, Bob did too and brought up how HBO and Showtime worked together to get a deal done in the past. Same can be done now. Floyd and Sr too shook though.

OK, first of all I'm legitimately tired of all the "Floyd's scared", "Manny won't take the test", "Arun's blocking the fight" bull****. its ******. Its childish. And its old. I'm seriously trying to see what solutions fight fans have to all of the promotional and network roadblocks that are in the way.

Now, you say Arum and Pac have shown interest. Of course, one can easily counter that by saying they've shown false interest in the past while already having Pac's next fight lined up. And the same can be said this time because they announced a fight date that makes it impossible to fight Floyd next. But I don't care about that. Assuming both sides are interested. How do they work through all the promotional and network drama?

[richardt]

OK, first of all I'm legitimately tired of all the "Floyd's scared", "Manny won't take the test", "Arun's blocking the fight" bull****. its ******. Its childish. And its old. I'm seriously trying to see what solutions fight fans have to all of the promotional and network roadblocks that are in the way.

Amen to that! Solutions are what we need to think about, not past obstacles placed by the fighters, their management, etc. It is what can be done now that matters.

[hitking]

Arum and GBP have to see dollars in their eyes, big dollars to put aside the differences for the fight and I don't think that is impossible for what is at stake. The fight could actually set them on a course for future fights. I have seen for more difficult impasses passed through outside of Boxing, it can happen here. Money changes everything. But, with all the huge egos involved, egos sometimes get the best of everything and are like holes in the universe, they suck all the energy out of everything and hence- no fight....too many big ***ing egos getting in the way. Damn I wish GBP and Arum woke up tomorrow with 100K to their name. Dose of humiliation would go a long way.

But realistically, we know that's not gonna happen. So IMO that's like buying a lotto ticket and planning your financial future based on hitting. So to me, that's not a realistic solution. IMO, somebody is gonna have to bend over and take about a 12" **** in their ass, maybe a double **** to make this thing happen. Whether it be Showtime, HBO, GBP, Arum, Floyd, and/or Pac. So IMO its not a matter of if someone is gonna get ****ed. Its about who's willing to get ****ed. So in that case, it almost comes down to what wants it more. Do you agree?

[hitking]

Amen to that! Solutions are what we need to think about, not past obstacles placed by the fighters, their management, etc. It is what can be done now that matters.

Real talk homie. I'm legitimately tired of the bull****. But I also have an agenda to my approach to this thread. And I'm willing to admit it. I'm exposing all of those who get on here with all the fanboy bull****. Because realistically. They know its damn near impossible to make this fight happen, yet they still get on here and bash one side or the other. So in my mind, that tells me that they aren't interested in facts or solutions or even really seeing the fight. They simply wanna make the opposite side look as bad as possible. We know who really wants the fight because they're the ones looking at possible solutions.

[The Big Dunn]

Real talk homie. I'm legitimately tired of the bull****. But I also have an agenda to my approach to this thread. And I'm willing to admit it. I'm exposing all of those who get on here with all the fanboy bull****. Because realistically. They know its damn near impossible to make this fight happen, yet they still get on here and bash one side or the other. So in my mind, that tells me that they aren't interested in facts or solutions or even really seeing the fight. They simply wanna make the opposite side look as bad as possible. We know who really wants the fight because they're the ones looking at possible solutions.

True. Its no different from GGG v floyd. they know the obstacles but would ather say scared, duck, blah blah blah.

There is going to have to be some give. I hope floyd makes a bettr offer. I hope manny doesn't refuse again. Then get this thing made.

[hitking]

Sr is full of ****.... These dudes always make all sorts of excuses when it comes to manny...

1. manny still brings the most money

2. Manny is back in the win column with a nice win over rios

3. Manny is better than any of the other potential floyd opponents

4. ghost, ortiz, and now probably khan have all gotten fights by beating rios level fighters like berto

5. If floyd only fights guys on big winning streaks, then he should be fighting bradley or garcia as those are the only guys that have earned the floyd fight,, everyone else is just a cash grab by floyd and his team

So how do they realistically make the fight happen?