Poll. Who should win 2013 trainer of the year?

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  • Adamjr91
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    #31
    Roach. He turned Ruslan from an ESPN Friday Night fighter to a legit HBO world champion.
    Last edited by Adamjr91; 11-25-2013, 03:34 PM.

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    • Kuyukut
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      #32
      it’s freddie roach and whoever disputes this is delusional and plainly hating.

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      • RiC-DiC
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        #33
        Angel Garcia.

        Who else has trained a "slow, one-dimensional underdog, with nothing more than a looping hook" to dismantle a beast who had knocked down all 34 of his previous opponents and was supposed to win by brutal destruction?

        Nobody.

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        • Beercules
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          #34
          Originally posted by Adamjr91
          Roach. He turned Ruslan from an ESPN Friday Night fighter to a legit HBO world champion.
          This is true. I totally forgot Ruslan is trained by Roach.

          Ruslan
          Cotto
          Pacquiao

          I think Roach should win trainer of the year

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          • wiz1030
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            #35
            Originally posted by KaL-EL
            Freddie Roach since he has Cotto, Pac, Ruslan and Shimming winning this year.

            Angel Garcia and Floyd sr dont really count since they only train 1 fighter
            I think people are seeing it as a quality vs. quantity situation.

            It's the consensus that Pac and Cotto didn't face respectable opposition. Ruslan went 1-1 this albeit both good performances (the win without Freddie in the corner), and Shiming is being spoon-fed weak opponents from what I hear...

            imo Roach hasn't outdone R. Garcia this year, especially if Maidana can pull off a victory against Broner

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            • waxfondler
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              #36
              Originally posted by RockyIV
              anybody could have manned the corner of pacquiao and cotto in their last fights and the result would have been the same. Floyd has shown more improvement than these fighters and it's thanks to his dad.

              Mayweather sr. Is a great trainer, he vastly improved hatton and he never looked better in demolishing mallignaggi. He did great things with de la Hoya too.
              we are discussing "trainer of the YEAR". no point in bringing up fighters floyd sr. worked with years ago.

              i agree floyd sr. is a GREAT trainer, i believe at the moment, he is working with MMA guys.... other than floyd, who else has he lead to victory THIS YEAR. thats why i believe he is not listed.

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              • waxfondler
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                #37
                Originally posted by wiz1030
                I think people are seeing it as a quality vs. quantity situation.

                It's the consensus that Pac and Cotto didn't face respectable opposition. Ruslan went 1-1 this albeit both good performances (the win without Freddie in the corner), and Shiming is being spoon-fed weak opponents from what I hear...

                imo Roach hasn't outdone R. Garcia this year, especially if Maidana can pull off a victory against Broner
                dont forget garcia was in the corner for the embarassment of donaire/rigo. i like garcia, he is doing great with mikey. but rios & donaire were tough losses for the garcia camp.

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                • Adamjr91
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Beercules
                  This is true. I totally forgot Ruslan is trained by Roach.

                  Ruslan
                  Cotto
                  Pacquiao

                  I think Roach should win trainer of the year
                  Cotto and Pacquiao shouldn't even be in the discussion. Rios and Devlin are B and C class fighters respectively and me and you could have coached Cotto and Pacquiao to win those fights.

                  What Roach has done with Ruslan however is unbelieveable. I remember watching him on ESPN and thinking hes an average brawler but since then he's been on a war path lol

                  Originally posted by wiz1030
                  I think people are seeing it as a quality vs. quantity situation.

                  It's the consensus that Pac and Cotto didn't face respectable opposition. Ruslan went 1-1 this albeit both good performances (the win without Freddie in the corner), and Shiming is being spoon-fed weak opponents from what I hear...

                  imo Roach hasn't outdone R. Garcia this year, especially if Maidana can pull off a victory against Broner
                  If Maidana beats Broner convincingly then yea I would say R. Garcia deserves it. Highly unlikely though, I feel like Broner is going to eat Maidana alive on the inside.

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                  • Adamjr91
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by waxfondler
                    dont forget garcia was in the corner for the embarassment of donaire/rigo. i like garcia, he is doing great with mikey. but rios & donaire were tough losses for the garcia camp.
                    Donaire and Rios could have had Angelo Dundee in their corner for the Rigondeaux and Pacquiao fights respectively and it still wouldn't have made a difference. Therefore those loses shouldn't really count against Garcia.

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                    • waxfondler
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                      #40
                      i think it comes down to hunter & roach... garcia had a great 2012, but rios & donaire losses hurt.

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