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  • The Big Dunn
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    #361
    Originally posted by Don Duva
    Are you seriously this thick or are you so emotionally invested in Mayweather that you'll defend him at every cost? Let me just repeat this once more so even your tiny little brain can comprehend it: Mayweather offered Pacquiao zero percentage of the ppv money to a man who'd consistently generated over a million buy rates in his last three fights. A fight that would have grossed hundreds of millions of dollars in ppv revenue alone, and Pacquiao - a proven and comparable draw to Mayweather - wouldn't have made a single cent out of it.



    If you're incapable of understanding why that offer was so ridiculous, why it was nowhere near comparable to Mayweather and Kovalev ( @ this comparison) being low balled by De La Hoya and Warren respectively, there really is no helping you. Seems years of regularly deep throating Floyd has impaired your ability to think with reason and logic.
    Apparently I didn't make myself clear-I dn't give a **** if Manny doesn't get a single cent from he ppv revenue or if he is lowballed.

    Everytime Manny generated sales in excess of 1 million and he had the bulk of the ppv revenue he never made more than $28 mil. Not when he fought ODH, not cotto, not Mosley, not JMM. NEVER!!!!!!

    SO instead of giving him a percentage of the ppv revenue floyd offered him a flat fee. That flat fee will EXCEED THE MONEY HE MADE SELLING 1.5 MIL PPV'S, BY 42%. Is the offer ridiculous-YES. Its also $10 mil more than Manny is projected to make in his upcoming fight where he has the bulk of the ppv revenue.

    SImple choice-fight floyd for $40 mil, no ppv while he makes roughly $125-150 mil or fight Rios for $18 mil plus the bulk of the ppv while Rios makes about $4 mil. He took the easy win for short money-nothing you post changes that.

    I'm curious-which would you have taken?

    If manny wants to make more money-fire ARum and get a new attorney/manager/adviser who helps you craft a deal so you get the kind of money ODH and Floyd make. If you keep ARum you'll continue to make 1/2 or 1/3 of wha ODH and Floyd made after they left.

    If you could justify the above without insulting me you would. Its also funny that a poster with 136 posts knows what another poster has been doing for years. Clearly your an alt of someone banned. I only hope the mods see this and address you.

    Go **** yourself and when you're done, think long and hard to find a rational way to justify choosing $30 mil over $40 mil other than ego and not wanting to lose.

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    • john_uphold
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      #362
      Originally posted by MDPopescu
      Basquiat was friends with Andy Warhol... He died young, too young...
      Everybody has their own taste in "Art".. but wow, that sugar ray robinson art is ridiculously hideous, same with ANY of Andy Warhol's art. Just ridiculous. It is pretty much the brand name that sells everybody, I love art so when I see stuff like that it's just..

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      • dc3383
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        #363
        Neither side will try to make the fight next and is probably the least interested in reviving Mannys career

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        • MDPopescu
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          #364
          Originally posted by john_uphold
          Everybody has their own taste in "Art".. but wow, that sugar ray robinson art is ridiculously hideous, same with ANY of Andy Warhol's art. Just ridiculous. It is pretty much the brand name that sells everybody, I love art so when I see stuff like that it's just..
          "Art History" exists and it has a point...

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          • Holywarrior
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            #365
            Originally posted by john_uphold
            Everybody has their own taste in "Art".. but wow, that sugar ray robinson art is ridiculously hideous, same with ANY of Andy Warhol's art. Just ridiculous. It is pretty much the brand name that sells everybody, I love art so when I see stuff like that it's just..
            It signifies that robinson was king in a largely black and white time. especially when the black murderers row were being largely blocked out. I think it's cool

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            • rckdees
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              #366
              so let's get this straight pacquiao won't have a problem paying taxes?

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              • john_uphold
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                #367
                Originally posted by Holywarrior
                It signifies that robinson was king in a largely black and white time. especially when the black murderers row were being largely blocked out. I think it's cool
                I understand the meaning, always deeper than what we see, just sayin.. Can you honestly from your heart say this does not "look" like a child drew it? Have you ever seen "The Other Guys"? It reminds me of that scene with Terry Hoitz in the Art Gallery lol

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                • Vasyl’s dad
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                  #368
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  Quote:

                  Originally Posted by Don Duva

                  Are you seriously this thick or are you so emotionally invested in Mayweather that you'll defend him at every cost? Let me just repeat this once more so even your tiny little brain can comprehend it: Mayweather offered Pacquiao zero percentage of the ppv money to a man who'd consistently generated over a million buy rates in his last three fights. A fight that would have grossed hundreds of millions of dollars in ppv revenue alone, and Pacquiao - a proven and comparable draw to Mayweather - wouldn't have made a single cent out of it.



                  If you're incapable of understanding why that offer was so ridiculous, why it was nowhere near comparable to Mayweather and Kovalev ( @ this comparison) being low balled by De La Hoya and Warren respectively, there really is no helping you. Seems years of regularly deep throating Floyd has impaired your ability to think with reason and logic.

                  Apparently I didn't make myself clear-I dn't give a **** if Manny doesn't get a single cent from he ppv revenue or if he is lowballed.

                  Everytime Manny generated sales in excess of 1 million and he had the bulk of the ppv revenue he never made more than $28 mil. Not when he fought ODH, not cotto, not Mosley, not JMM. NEVER!!!!!!

                  SO instead of giving him a percentage of the ppv revenue floyd offered him a flat fee. That flat fee will EXCEED THE MONEY HE MADE SELLING 1.5 MIL PPV'S, BY 42%. Is the offer ridiculous-YES. Its also $10 mil more than Manny is projected to make in his upcoming fight where he has the bulk of the ppv revenue.

                  SImple choice-fight floyd for $40 mil, no ppv while he makes roughly $125-150 mil or fight Rios for $18 mil plus the bulk of the ppv while Rios makes about $4 mil. He took the easy win for short money-nothing you post changes that.

                  I'm curious-which would you have taken?

                  If manny wants to make more money-fire ARum and get a new attorney/manager/adviser who helps you craft a deal so you get the kind of money ODH and Floyd make. If you keep ARum you'll continue to make 1/2 or 1/3 of wha ODH and Floyd made after they left.

                  If you could justify the above without insulting me you would. Its also funny that a poster with 136 posts know what another poster has been doing for years. Clearly your an alt of someone banned. I only hope the mods see this and address you.

                  Go **** yourself and when you're done, think long and hard to find a rational way to justify choosing $30 mil over $40 mil other than ego and not wanting to lose.
                  every time to floyd fights someone not named Manny, he is making considerably less as well. how do you justify Floyd turning down his biggestv payday?


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                  • Holywarrior
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                    #369
                    Originally posted by john_uphold
                    I understand the meaning, always deeper than what we see, just sayin.. Can you honestly from your heart say this does not "look" like a child drew it? Have you ever seen "The Other Guys"? It reminds me of that scene with Terry Hoitz in the Art Gallery lol
                    The beauty about art in itself is it's always up for interpretation, not everyone likes every piece.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #370
                      Originally posted by I don't lose
                      every time to floyd fights someone not named Manny, he is making considerably less as well. how do you justify Floyd turning down his biggestv payday?


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                      STop the bull**** coldcashcanelo. When manny turns the fight down, thats not floyd refusing to fight. Thats like saying Canelo is responsible for the CW because he said we can fight at 150.

                      There is NOTHING you can say that justifies Manny refusing the $40 mil no ppv offer to make a fight that pays him $10 mil less. His ego won't let him sign for a fight where floyd make 3-4 times as much as him to fight.

                      Like I told alt don duva, if Manny hadn't refused the 50/50 offer over ped tesing and cutoff dates we wouldn't be here.

                      He kept waiting assuming his negotiating position would improve. It didn't. Get over it and deal with the consequences of your decision like any man does.

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