Ward did not clean out his division

[daggum]

Yeah.

That's it.

You got it all figured out.

"I can't fight the #1 guy for my highest payday ever because he has to prove himself!" turns around......."hi delvin rodriguez lets fight!" -andre ward

[bojangles1987]

so why did he say it then lol. he didn't say yeah i'll fight him when i heal. he said go prove yourself. he didn't say go prove yourself to bum rodriguez. he's a liar and a hypocrite and you are defending him for some strange reason. he just didn't want to fight bute. he knows boxing more than all of us so we should trust his judgement. this is the new breed of "greats" only fighting guys that fit their styles. dismissing others as unproven or unpopular. smart people can see through this charade they call boxing. we will never go back to the time of greats like ali, leonard, and ottke.

Fighters say a lot of stuff. They contradict themselves constantly. Every single one of them. Actions speak louder than words, maybe Ward would have ducked Bute, but there was never a point where he actually did.

And come on, Ward has fought a lot of different styles. There's nothing about Bute's style that Ward hasn't seen before.

[Sweet Pea 50]

"I can't fight the #1 guy for my highest payday ever because he has to prove himself!" turns around......."hi delvin rodriguez lets fight!" -andre ward

He didn't fight Delvin Rodriguez his next fight after Froch.

He weight drained Chad Dawson, and stopped him in his hometown of Oakland.

If you're going to troll, at least get your shit straight, cupcake.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Its virtually impossible to clean out any division because there is always new contenders rising up,,,

you can say wlad has cleaned out the division, but he hasnt fought fury,, then if he beat fury, there will be andy ruiz, beat him, then there will be joshua or wilder, etc

but ward has clearly come about as humanly possible at cleaning out a division as one can get

[daggum]

Fighters say a lot of stuff. They contradict themselves constantly. Every single one of them. Actions speak louder than words, maybe Ward would have ducked Bute, but there was never a point where he actually did.

And come on, Ward has fought a lot of different styles. There's nothing about Bute's style that Ward hasn't seen before.

he fought a power punching counter-punching southpaw before? when? ward likes to jump forward with his shoulder in order to smother his opponent. bute likes to throw that big left to the body or as an uppercut. not a good combo for ward. he took the "go prove yourself route" instead of the "i'll prove i'm better route"

[El Angel]

how about before? ward kept spouting off about how bute hadn't proved himself, but he just fought delvin rodriguez so........yea.........

Wasn't Bute offered a spot in the Super Six and turned it down? He had his chance against the best and passed on it. When they finished and he took a shot against Froch, he got destroyed. He showed and proved what Ward always said, when he had his chance to prove himself, he failed miserably.

And it's Edwin Rodriguez

[Sweet Pea 50]

Wasn't Bute offered a spot in the Super Six and turned it down? He had his chance against the best and passed on it. When they finished and he took a shot against Froch, he got destroyed. He showed and proved what Ward always said, when he had his chance to prove himself, he failed miserably.

And it's Edwin Rodriguez

He knows.

He is in massive troll mode.

It's what he does.

[-PBP-]

Ward is starting to be hated for being good. He's getting the Mayweather treatment.

Lucian Bute is this era's Margarito. 10 years from now Daggum and others will be showing videos of Ward ducking Bute and being shook. And they will talk about how Bute was the boogieman in the division that everybody in the Super 6 ducked.

[daggum]

Wasn't Bute offered a spot in the Super Six and turned it down? He had his chance against the best and passed on it. When they finished and he took a shot against Froch, he got destroyed. He showed and proved what Ward always said, when he had his chance to prove himself, he failed miserably.

And it's Edwin Rodriguez

no they never asked him. they passed on him. then ward passed on him saying he needed to prove himself. then ward accepted a fight against delvin's brother who hadn't proved himself.

[daggum]

He knows.

He is in massive troll mode.

It's what he does.

i'm just stating irrefutable facts. you guys can spin them however you like. ward said bute had to prove himself and then for some reason instead of using your brain and saying wait a minute why does bute have to prove himself but not someone like rodriguez? why would ward say such puzzling things? instead of asking yourself this you say "bute has to prove himself!" very good argument indeed.