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  • #31
    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
    Its a boxing forum, why wouldn't I share a more in depth link to a world champions amateur record?

    Its actually funny considering his amateur record is what most use in debates for trying to make out he is some sort of unbeatable monster.

    Oh well I am sure some will appreciate and even try find the videos and such.
    but does it make any real difference if he lost 5,8 or 10 fights out of 350? I fail to see how.

    342-8 is very impressive record, as well as 340-10..

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Simurgh View Post
      but does it make any real difference if he lost 5,8 or 10 fights out of 350? I fail to see how.

      342-8 is very impressive record, as well as 340-10..

      It takes nothing from an impressive amateur pedigree really but if they (someone) has decreased the number of losses by a margin what is to say they haven't increased the number of wins too?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
        No blueprint in beating him in the pros though. No wins over top 5 guys cause none of them want to fight him, they are too scared of what he's doing to non-top 10 ranked guys and #9 ranked fighters.

        It has nothing to do with the networks not offering the top guys enough money to fight him, it's just that they are afraid of the power that he has shown against fighters who weren't even in the top 15 at 160, Ishida and Rosado. Guys like Martinez who happily fight fringe contenders like Matthew Macklin, Golovkin's best win, duck Golovkin.

        Quillin ducking, Murray ducking, Barker ducking, Geale ducking, Sturm hiding and paid Golovkin step aside money, Chavez Jr ran away from the division rather than face the wrath of GGG, Rosado talking crap about gloves, Ishida retired, Stevens recovering in BK. Who's gonna step up? Mora?
        Can't use the money excuse anymore when HBO has been putting up enough money that these guys are all getting the most money they've ever made.

        And what exactly makes Macklin so different from Barker or Sturm or Murray, besides actually fighting Golovkin? He arguably beat Sturm and gave Martinez a tough fight. What's so different from him and Murray?

        I don't understand how people actually argue these guys haven't ducked Golovkin. It takes like 5 minutes and you can find every article and quote needed to make it pretty obvious most of them have.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
          But why inflate his record & try deceive people? His amateur record is still impressive, no need to and seeing as people are basing everything off his amateur credentials it surely carries some weight.
          Amateur records aren't recorded properly. This is just an estimate. The site doesn't even know what his full record is yet we're meant to take his losses seriously. It says Full Record = ???.

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          • #35
            it's all over, this will have a snowball effect, first of all the record's a lie, next the age is a lie, where will it end??

            golovkin just became the middleweight samuel peter.

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            • #36
              There's very few fighters with 100% reliable amateur records. Is Lomachenko 396-1 or 400-1?

              That's the first one I can think of off of the top of my head.

              Hell even boxrec gets is wrong from time to time.

              When guys fights hundreds of fights in the AM's, I seriously doubt that they record EVERY single loss AND win. These guys start fighting at very young ages.

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              • #37
                I dont care about how manny amateur-losses GGG has. Hes a professional now.
                But to be honest i cant believe he lost to Eduard Gutknecht!! This guy is a professional now out of germany but he brings not much to the table. Hes not a good puncher and also not a verry good boxer.
                Gutknecht: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...7051&cat=boxer
                Last edited by Tobi.G; 11-14-2013, 07:59 AM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
                  So, first they said he supposedly only lost once and that loss was avenged then it was 5 and now 8?


                  Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android
                  Wrong guy, that's Lomachenko that supposedly lost only once. Not real plausible. But I can see why it bothers you, since Rigo has a minimum of 12 losses

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                  • #39
                    Honestly, this is sad. You're more obsessed with Golovkin than Rigondeaux, Matthysse and Chakiev.
                    I really don't understand your obsession. You evidently hate hype, but ride Matthysse's **** up and down. You hate people who've yet to prove themselves, but before Rigo beat Donaire, you proclaimed him the next best thing since toast.
                    You still ride Chakiev's **** even though he got exposed..... but you won't say exposed because you like him. If Golovkin loses against anybody, he's an exposed bum.
                    Sad man

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                    • #40
                      Well this changes everything, the guy is clearly a bum

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