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  • #51
    Oh well it is what it is.

    Have family coming in early for holiday and they are sports nuts so looks like i am buying. They still dont know who Rios is but they know Pac and a few beers will make this undercard great so im in

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
      Dude, Rios was outboxed by Alvarado and friggin Abril lmao. Just stop.
      Guerrero lost to Gamaliel Diaz and quit vs Daud Yordan. Abril, Alvarado >>> Diaz, Yordan. More to the point, Guerrero barely stayed upright vs Selcuk Aydin, who's a LW sized bum with T Rex arms. Jojo Dan and Soto Karass outclassed him, while Guerrero was proud of himself for getting past this p4p punching beast.

      Alvarado was 158 fight night as a JWW! When has JMM faced anyone that big?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
        Guerrero lost to Gamaliel Diaz and quit vs Daud Yordan. Abril, Alvarado >>> Diaz, Yordan. More to the point, Guerrero barely stayed upright vs Selcuk Aydin, who's a LW sized bum with T Rex arms. Jojo Dan and Soto Karass outclassed him, while Guerrero was proud of himself for getting past this p4p punching beast.

        Alvarado was 158 fight night as a JWW! When has JMM faced anyone that big?
        Guerrero beats Rios

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        • #54
          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          Guerrero lost to Gamaliel Diaz and quit vs Daud Yordan. Abril, Alvarado >>> Diaz, Yordan. More to the point, Guerrero barely stayed upright vs Selcuk Aydin, who's a LW sized bum with T Rex arms. Jojo Dan and Soto Karass outclassed him, while Guerrero was proud of himself for getting past this p4p punching beast.

          Alvarado was 158 fight night as a JWW! When has JMM faced anyone that big?
          Who cares how big Rios is, the guy is slow as mollasses.

          How long ago were those fights LMAO Guerero is still a top welterweight and Rios is 1-1 vs a nobody in Alvarado.

          Hopefully Rios stays at 147 and gets his ass whooped by Marquez and Guerero. Would love it. He better not run back to 140
          Last edited by Holywarrior; 11-14-2013, 12:27 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
            Bhop is entitled to his opinion. I disagree with him on this.

            True, which is in part why people had a problem with the fight. SO the same thing should apply.

            Like I said to shade-if you are a poster that doesn't like fights that are blowouts on paper-be consistent.
            Well you're on the opposite sides of the spectrum. He thinks it's a highly dangerous fight, you think it's a cherrypick and walkover. One guys is a legend and one of the smartest, wiliest boxers in a long time, and a GBP stakeholder with no love lost for Pac. The other guy is a paid shill that's been pushing his agenda on NSB for years. Hmm, who to believe.

            Fair enough, though making a 2 division climb is much harder than 1. Especially when Rios will be coming in as the much bigger guy, and weighed in 160 as a LWW.

            I hope this fight is a blowout, but I'm afraid it might be the fight that retires Pac.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
              Who cares how big Rios is, the guy is slow as mollasses.

              How long ago were those fights LMAO Guerero is still a top welterweight and Rios is 1-1 vs a nobody in Alvarado.

              Hopefully Rios stays at 147 and gets his ass whooped by Marquez and Guerero. Would love it. He better not run back to 140
              Glen Johnson is also slow as molasses, didn't help RJJ.

              Aydin is also very slow and very tiny. And that was just last year. His next fight he got humiliated by Soto Karass and decided to drop to JWW, where he's still a midget.

              Don't worry about Rios going back to 140, he can't make that weight. Are you listening to me? The fcuker was 160 fight night as a JWW! By contrast, both Guerrero and Aydin were 151 or below as welters! Put Rios in with Aydin and Berto (lmao) and he's a top welter as well, with 2 KO wins

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Money Team. View Post
                On episode 1 of 24/7 he said he chose Rios because he was a come forward fighter and would make an exciting fight...lets look at the facts

                Rios is 1-1 at 140 and lost to Alvarado who is a b class fighter...Rios is not even top 5 at 140 and has 0 fights at 147...Rios fights 1 style and can not adjust at all...just come forward and swing..this guy has 0 elite wins on his resume..has 0 noteworthy wins and is not good in any way possible..this is a **** fight period...the only reason i mention this is because all the **** posters hyping this are the same one who try to **** on all of Floyd fights even though he actually fights world champions coming off of good wins...This fight shoud be on ESPN if not NBC..Manny has not won a fight officially since 2011 and has not beaten a ww coming off of a win since 2009...Rios has not beaten anyone worth mentioning period...this is a **** fight and proves nothing
                They can't handle the truth. Great post bruh.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                  Glen Johnson is also slow as molasses, didn't help RJJ.

                  Aydin is also very slow and very tiny. And that was just last year. His next fight he got humiliated by Soto Karass and decided to drop to JWW, where he's still a midget.

                  Don't worry about Rios going back to 140, he can't make that weight. Are you listening to me? The fcuker was 160 fight night as a JWW! By contrast, both Guerrero and Aydin were 151 or below as welters! Put Rios in with Aydin and Berto (lmao) and he's a top welter as well, with 2 KO wins
                  Geurrero is much faster than Rios.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                    Well you're on the opposite sides of the spectrum. He thinks it's a highly dangerous fight, you think it's a cherrypick and walkover. One guys is a legend and one of the smartest, wiliest boxers in a long time, and a GBP stakeholder with no love lost for Pac. The other guy is a paid shill that's been pushing his agenda on NSB for years. Hmm, who to believe.

                    Fair enough, though making a 2 division climb is much harder than 1. Especially when Rios will be coming in as the much bigger guy, and weighed in 160 as a LWW.

                    I hope this fight is a blowout, but I'm afraid it might be the fight that retires Pac.
                    Hopkins also said floyd was the greatest of his generation and a top 5 ATG. Did you agree with that? Didn't think so.

                    you have no idea what weight rios will rehydrate to yet you speculate 160. geez.

                    no you're not.Manny is the overwhelming favorite since they announced the fight. pac fans are just trying to make this more than it is so when pac wins they can pretend being surprised and act like the win was a huge win.

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                    • #60
                      alvarado was somethin like top 4-5 at one point, while rios was 6-8, rios stopped him once and lost a close fight

                      khan got sparked, and has been out of the division for a while now, judah sucks, peterson lost by ko and only has a khan win via controversiol decision

                      why can rios not be considered top 5 at 140?(had he chosen to stay there)
                      garcia
                      matthysse
                      provodnikov
                      alvarado
                      rios

                      alvarado and rios being interchangeable, he could even be over provo because rios' resume> provo's by a mile
                      but im going by recent events
                      Last edited by SplitSecond; 11-14-2013, 01:03 PM.

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