Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao and Drug Testing Four Years Later

[Sugar Booger]

Both fighters acted like primadonnas after the first round of negotiations fell out, but the number one issue for a long time was the random blood and urine testing. It's extremely ironic and frustrating that Manny is doing it now.

Exactly, the coward pacroid shouldve agreed to testing years ago. Now he looks like a fool. Rios is going to retire that loser.

[Fetta]

And if all board members interviewing you first accused you of doing PEDS, you would not want to work for them.

Thats not true cause if they gave me opportunity to prove im clean to get highest paying job of my career then i would jump at it. Especially if i knew i was clean

And have been to job interviews in the past where they requested a drug test right there and then following the interview

[hitking]

Why is this bull**** still even being talked about? Regardless of who you think is at fault for the fight not happening or who ducked whom. It all became irrelevant the night Pac got ICED by JMM. Floyd is the clear cut P4P King and fighting coming off that bad a KO, to one of his leftovers, isn't a fight worth even talking about. Especially with all the headaches and drama associated with making the fight happen. If Pac goes out and beats Rios. And then goes on and avenges a Bradley or a JMM. Then we have something to talk about. But rght now it isn't even worth the energy.

[richardt]

Thats not true cause if they gave me opportunity to prove im clean to get highest paying job of my career then i would jump at it. Especially if i knew i was clean

Wrong! It may not be true for you or you may think you would respond in one way till it happens and you realize your sensitivities or ego responds differently than you thought you would. If someone is accusing you right off the bat of something, it is not guaranteed you will respond that way and anyone who knows psychology knows there are a number of ways to respond, one is to take it personal and not want to work with folks who before they are hired are accusing them of something, the other way is to show them up and test, but everyone responds either taking something personal, or responding with some excuse or "how dare they accuse me". You are not Pac and can not assume everyone will respond the same way, that is not how psychology works. There are different ways to respond to the same situation and sometimes small differences like mood, attitude, sensitivity, ego, creates even more dynamic responses.

[Fetta]

If someone is accusing you right off the bat of something, it is not guaranteed you will respond that way and anyone who knows psychology knows there are a number of ways to respond, one is to take it personal and not want to work with folks who before they are hired are accusing them of something, the other way is to show them up and test, but everyone responds either taking something personal, or responding with some excuse or "how dare they accuse me". You are not Pac and can not assume everyone will respond the same way, that is not how psychology works.

Then you cant assume either. Re-read the post i responded to.

And im saying that post wasnt true cause it isnt.

[Ray*]

It was no big deal then and it's still not a big deal now, when 17 years olds, 14 years old are getting tested randomly at events in sports then I don't want to hear excuses why a guy that stood to make $40 odd millions would refuse unless he was on something.

[JaYDeuce11]

Sucks that everything was agreed on for them to fight in March of 2010. It was all over ESPN, was gonna be the biggest event in boxng history, fans who never watched boxing would buy it...then floyd had his doubts

If nky Lacquiao had called floyd on his bluff with testing, we would have seen if floyd would have stayed on for the fight. Because next round of negotiations floyd said he would take a vacation, then 50/50 wasoff the table. Now said pac would haveto sign with tmt promotions n all the rest of tmt fighters that have tested positive for performance enchanced

[hitking]

That has nothing to do with the agreement of testing which was the discussion and what the point revolved around. Everyone knows Arum throws wrenches into plans, like members from both sides.

At tje end of the day it doesn't matter. The boxing world accepts that GBP and Top Rank aren't gonna do business together in every situation except Floyd-Pac. Any chance of the fight happening was ended when Pac signed a multi-fight extension with Arum not too long back. We don't have to like it. But it is what it is. Time to just move on.

[Calm down mate]

No, you're largely miss informed. The fact he was 10lbs north of his 130lbs bouts, is not new. Almost every single fighter fights a few lbs above the weight they're suppose to weigh.

My point is he moved up starting at 112 all the way to 154 without losing any speed or power. That never happens. Again it would be like seeing Santa Cruz move up in weight and KO GGG. It would cause su****ion.

He never moved to 154. He fought Margs at a catchweight.

Mayweather started out at 106lbs and he still looked pretty damn fast at 154 against Canelo.

And Pacquiao is not as powerful at 147 as he was at the lower weights. His power peaks at 140 for me.

[richardt]

Then you cant assume either. Re-read the post i responded to. And im saying that post wasnt true cause it isnt.

There are at least two ways to respond. I used the "two different people asking you for money" scenario to show that many people will chose to not work with people who accuse them of something as opposed to some vindication. That means someone can say "I don't need to justify false accusations" or they can say "I will show everyone I am not on PEDS and test. Pac's first response was to take it personal and he sued. That is not up for debate, that was his actual response. That is a normal psychological response. Pac later on decides he wants the fight and agrees to random testing. That is also a normal psychological response. What his motivations are only he really knows but he did ultimately agree to testing for Floyd. Situations change, moods, egos, attitude, other nuances change but to say that the ONLY response a person will take is to vindicate themselves because they are accused of something is not a realistic understanding of the myriad of psychological responses that people can have based on a number of things. Maybe you feel that way but even you may respond opposite to what you think when you are in that interview room. Now, lets hear what you think Floyd has done wrong if you want to be considered as someone who is not biased.