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  • Sugar Booger
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    #141
    Originally posted by richardt
    No he did not, everyone knows Lewis and Pac won those fights. Now produce the article that shows Pac declined Floyd's offer or log out.
    Pac himself admitted that he lost.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #142
      Originally posted by richardt
      Ego is a huge part of it. If a fighter is something of a Prima Donna, it becomes even more personal and as long as a fighter can survive without the other guy, he is less inclined to put his ego or feelings aside.
      Yes, I agree. Its just clear that money is a huge motivating factor for manny, especially when its this fight. even when he was warming to testing, it was on the condition of 50/50.

      I think its clear that Manny and his management know his deal will limit his take from this fight so he has been trying to get floyd to give him more than he is worth to offset that. well that wont ever happen, especially after the refusal.

      Thats why I think floyd should make an offer that doubles manny's career best with guarantee/ppv %. Thats what floyd got from ODH. If manny won't take that just because he isn't getting more than its time to move on.

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      • Fetta
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        #143
        Originally posted by richardt
        You mean ARUM walked. Pac wanted the fight and Arum jumped in again. So when people say Pac declined Floyd's offer, that is not correct.
        Arum speaks for Pac so when i say team PAc i include him. And thats why i said i dont see how it isnt viewed that way already. Pac walked from tests and said so himself. I think he was dirty but in the end the failed negotations was Arum.

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        • richardt
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          #144
          Originally posted by Sugar Booger
          Pac himself admitted that he lost.
          He also said he felt he won the fight so apparently you cant score a fight. Now produce the article showing that Pac declined the money offer. Nice how you keep avoiding that.

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          • richardt
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            #145
            Originally posted by Fetta
            Arum speaks for Pac so when i say team PAc i include him. And thats why i said i dont see how it isnt viewed that way already. Pac walked from tests and said so himself. I think he was dirty but in the end the failed negotations was Arum.
            I separate the two because they had two different responses.

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            • Sugar Booger
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              #146
              Originally posted by richardt
              He also said he felt he won the fight so apparently you cant score a fight. Now produce the article showing that Pac declined the money offer. Nice how you keep avoiding that.
              going to work now. you should try it

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              • richardt
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                #147
                Originally posted by Sugar Booger
                going to work now. you should try it
                I do. And I enjoy my work Mr. Booger.
                Last edited by richardt; 11-12-2013, 02:28 PM.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Sugar Booger
                  going to work now. you should try it
                  Man, this is the kind of crap d4thincarnation and shade darkar do. when they are in a corner and can't respond they come with I gotta go to work. F@ggoty a$$ bull$h1t of the highest order.

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                  • radioraheem
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by thuggery
                    Golden Boy lost a lot of money due to their high stable of cheats/cancelled fights so they had to drop VADA. Now fighters like Broner downright refuse to make a fight whatsoever if VADA is requested by the opponent. When you have guys like Love and Bey Jr still popping up dirty even without Vada you know it's a problem.
                    Even though you suggest Broner doesn't care about random drug testing, the following shows that it does concern him. It'll be through USADA.

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                    • richardt
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      Yes, I agree. Its just clear that money is a huge motivating factor for manny, especially when its this fight. even when he was warming to testing, it was on the condition of 50/50.

                      I think its clear that Manny and his management know his deal will limit his take from this fight so he has been trying to get floyd to give him more than he is worth to offset that. well that wont ever happen, especially after the refusal.

                      Thats why I think floyd should make an offer that doubles manny's career best with guarantee/ppv %. Thats what floyd got from ODH. If manny won't take that just because he isn't getting more than its time to move on.
                      That's reasonable. I think Arum knows the numbers better than Pac and probably dizzies Pac with numbers but those are based on Arums huge take and I'd love a third party to come in and shame Arum because as a Lawyer, that is one area he has no last word over, the accounting numbers by experts in the field.

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