Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Manager: Murray Refuses To Fight Gennady

[LouIE G]

Gotcha. All those guys that lost a fight = ordinary fighters, including Ali, SRR. To you only undefeated guys are extraordinary. So no wonder you have Ottke as an ATG. Rene Cuenca >> Hopkins

Lol it not my words its other peoples words...you see thing these fights dont take away there greatness,it took away there invincibikity meaning everone is human and nobody is unbeatable...donaire loses to rigo now nobody is praisingvhim like before...margarito gets smoked by mosely and caught with illegal handwraps now he is a cheat get it now??hey im zure there othervpeople who would disagree on your position of ottke..js

[LouIE G]

Dirrell lost to GGG in the olympics but it was close. The fact that GGG had a close match with a skilled fighter like Dirrell should tell you something about his attributes.

So I guess you called Ward ordinary before he was proven? I didn't.

Alot of people still talk about that fight in the olympics,ur vote is gonna be on what style you like aggresivnesd or slickness your choice...but ive always said ward had talent and that he was gonna be a great fighter..look at him now hes the #2pound for pound and alot of people on here think ggg will run through him

[LouIE G]

Right on cue

U can agree to disagree it doesnt matter,your right just as iam,these are opinions homie,it is wut it is smart guy

[HeroBando]

I'll name u five right off the back.........

theres mayweather, sweet p. b hop. tony, jones jr. oscar is a little lower in the ratings but he's still greater then anything from the soviets in the last 20 years. timothy bradley (HOF and great potential at ATG status) ward also has great potential (he's already HOF and dam near a atg)


worldwide? Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao. (cotto is a first balled HOF and great potential at ATG status)


since I gave you a list, name one ATG from the soviets in the last 22 years.

Of those, only Floyd turned pro in 20 years, which was your criteria. DLH was close, but he's not really an ATG. It's a shame, you were so proud of that argument. I understand the trend is making you uneasy and you may have to turn to a more parochial sport like the NFL

[LouIE G]

I'll name u five right off the back.........

theres mayweather, sweet p. b hop. tony, jones jr. oscar is a little lower in the ratings but he's still greater then anything from the soviets in the last 20 years. timothy bradley (HOF and great potential at ATG status) ward also has great potential (he's already HOF and dam near a atg)


worldwide? Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao. (cotto is a first balled HOF and great potential at ATG status)


since I gave you a list, name one ATG from the soviets in the last 22 years.

He cant,but he would probly say ivan drago,dicrediting a fighter like kostya tyszu lol

[HeroBando]

Lol it not my words its other peoples words...you see thing these fights dont take away there greatness,it took away there invincibikity meaning everone is human and nobody is unbeatable...donaire loses to rigo now nobody is praisingvhim like before...margarito gets smoked by mosely and caught with illegal handwraps now he is a cheat get it now??hey im zure there othervpeople who would disagree on your position of ottke..js

You were saying a loss makes a fighter ordinary. So we have

ordinary fighters: SRR, SRL, Greb, Ali, Hopkins, Toney, RJJ, Armstrong etc
special fighters: Floyd, Ottke, Calzaghe, Cuenca etc

Funny thing it's you that insists Calzaghe and Ottke were ATGs

[LouIE G]

You were saying a loss makes a fighter ordinary. So we have

ordinary fighters: SRR, SRL, Greb, Ali, Hopkins, Toney, RJJ, Armstrong etc
special fighters: Floyd, Ottke, Calzaghe, Cuenca etc

Funny thing it's you that insists Calzaghe and Ottke were ATGs

Never said that your misquoting me,and isaid one there invincibility gotten taken away they became to sum as ordinary fighters,not me personally iwas speaking in general...has nothing to do with srl,ssr,ali,hagler anybody they were the best in those times and r atgs..look at the situation donaire is in now and you tell me why people have changed there tune on this guy??come on smarty pants

[LouIE G]

You were saying a loss makes a fighter ordinary. So we have

ordinary fighters: SRR, SRL, Greb, Ali, Hopkins, Toney, RJJ, Armstrong etc
special fighters: Floyd, Ottke, Calzaghe, Cuenca etc

Funny thing it's you that insists Calzaghe and Ottke were ATGs

Rjj. Is an all time great but calzaghe is not?you mentions hopkins but no hagler wtf u quote armstrong and cuenca but no salvador sanchez???wow

[Light_Speed]

I'll name u five right off the back.........

theres mayweather, sweet p. b hop. tony, jones jr. oscar is a little lower in the ratings but he's still greater then anything from the soviets in the last 20 years. timothy bradley (HOF and great potential at ATG status) ward also has great potential (he's already HOF and dam near a atg)


worldwide? Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao. (cotto is a first balled HOF and great potential at ATG status)


since I gave you a list, name one ATG from the soviets in the last 22 years.

Wladimir Klitschko is a future HOFer.

ive always said ward had talent and that he was gonna be a great fighter..look at him now hes the #2pound for pound and alot of people on here think ggg will run through him

I thought you should call every fighter ordinary until they prove themselves?

[HeroBando]

Rjj. Is an all time great but calzaghe is not?you mentions hopkins but no hagler wtf u quote armstrong and cuenca but no salvador sanchez???wow

Yeah no **** RJJ is way greater than Joe IMO, but not according to you. Ok, if you insist, Hagler was also an ordinary fighter according to your criteria, as was Hearns, as was Sal Sanchez.

David Rodriguez OTOH is extraordinary. ATG Harry Simon >> Azumah Nelson