Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Manager: Murray Refuses To Fight Gennady

[LouIE G]

Wladimir Klitschko is a future HOFer.


I thought you should call every fighter ordinary until they prove themselves?

Dumb foo i said that about ggg not all fighters

[HeroBando]

Wladimir Klitschko is a future HOFer.

He's not a future ATG though, which was his thrust until he realized the date math didn't add up. Took some prodding. Not that the faulty math is the only problem with his reasoning, but no point in getting into subtleties if you can't count to 20

[LouIE G]

Yeah no **** RJJ is way greater than Joe IMO, but not according to you. Ok, if you insist, Hagler was also an ordinary fighter according to your criteria, as was Hearns, as was Sal Sanchez.

David Rodriguez OTOH is extraordinary. ATG Harry Simon >> Azumah Nelson

Rjj had potential to be an atg had he ritired after john ruiz...he let his career go to long and hurt his own status by gettimg beat by guys if he had been in his prime wouldnt have gotten beaten by...he is the atg fastest fighter ive ever seen..hagler is an atg my criteria was pertaining to eople changing there tune on fighters after they lose fights....no one would dicredit hagler hearns leonard nelson ali frazier foreman as atg fighters,but had they not lost and went undefeated besting everone in the ring maybe thdy would be in a category of invincible atgs dummy,which is my point your not comprehending rite now

[Light_Speed]

Dumb foo i said that about ggg not all fighters

The reason why you called Ward talented when he was unproven is the same reason why people are hyping GGG even though he's unproven : because they see something in him. Shouldn't be hard to understand, even with a pea-sized brain like yours.

[LouIE G]

The reason why you called Ward talented when he was unproven is the same reason why people are hyping GGG even though he's unproven : because they see something in him. Shouldn't be hard to understand, even with a pea-sized brain like yours.

A fighter with no defence is talented?ok fan boy...talented to me is a fighter who has the whole package,speed,power,defence is the main thing sumthing ggg as not had yet....ward cleaned out his own division with only 26 fights...ggg has got 27 fights with no signature wins...see wut talent does when you have it,you take pemature steps it bites you in the ass in most cases but only the truley special talented fighters prevail...u may say fighters are ducking gggvand not giving him his signature fight but that might not be the case...maybe its his mgr not gettingbhim the big fights....its possible dnt believe everything u hear on the internet

[HeroBando]

Rjj had potential to be an atg had he ritired after john ruiz...he let his career go to long and hurt his own status by gettimg beat by guys if he had been in his prime wouldnt have gotten beaten by...he is the atg fastest fighter ive ever seen..hagler is an atg my criteria was pertaining to eople changing there tune on fighters after they lose fights....no one would dicredit hagler hearns leonard nelson ali frazier foreman as atg fighters,but had they not lost and went undefeated besting everone in the ring maybe thdy would be in a category of invincible atgs dummy,which is my point your not comprehending rite now

That's cause your point is ******ed. Proof: it fails the real world test miserably, you get Cuenca > SRR, David Rodriguez > Ali. If your theory produces nonsense like this, chances are it's completely wrong.

[HeroBando]

A fighter with no defence is talented?ok fan boy...talented to me is a fighter who has the whole package,speed,power,defence is the main thing sumthing ggg as not had yet....ward cleaned out his own division with only 26 fights...ggg has got 27 fights with no signature wins...see wut talent does when you have it,you take pemature steps it bites you in the ass in most cases but only the truley special talented fighters prevail...u may say fighters are ducking gggvand not giving him his signature fight but that might not be the case...maybe its his mgr not gettingbhim the big fights....its possible dnt believe everything u hear on the internet

What do you mean by no defense? GGG took fewer punches vs Stevens than Floyd took vs Guerrero, but outlanded Curt 3-1.

Sounds like Ward and Floyd are not talented either since they have no power.

[LouIE G]

That's cause your point is ******ed. Proof: it fails the real world test miserably, you get Cuenca > SRR, David Rodriguez > Ali. If your theory produces nonsense like this, chances are it's completely wrong.

Your opinion is ur opinion its not mine when rjj starting getting beat by fighters like johnson,green,lebediv,your status goes down in tbis case...hall del valle harman telesco woods. The fighter he fought with the chicken punch among other fighters that werr no named decent fighters with no. Chance hurt his credibility in fans eyes...beating hopkins,toney,griffin,ruiz trinidad were the best guys hes beaten..imagine had he fought tyson when he wanted to wut would have happened to roy...?tyson would of destroyed him,but thTs pure fantasy before u try to say sumthi.g ******

[LouIE G]

That's cause your point is ******ed. Proof: it fails the real world test miserably, you get Cuenca > SRR, David Rodriguez > Ali. If your theory produces nonsense like this, chances are it's completely wrong.

You said cuenca was a special fighter now he is an atg great?stop contradicting yourself ur hurting urselfvtrying to prove a point...all i said were sum fighters lost there invincibility once they loss and in peoples eyes turned ordinary=margarito,hamed,tyson which to me is an atg but not to everybody never said ali ssr ssl hagler hearns none of those guyz your points are nothing really

[HeroBando]

Your opinion is ur opinion its not mine when rjj starting getting beat by fighters like johnson,green,lebediv,your status goes down in tbis case...hall del valle harman telesco woods. The fighter he fought with the chicken punch among other fighters that werr no named decent fighters with no. Chance hurt his credibility in fans eyes...beating hopkins,toney,griffin,ruiz trinidad were the best guys hes beaten..imagine had he fought tyson when he wanted to wut would have happened to roy...?tyson would of destroyed him,but thTs pure fantasy before u try to say sumthi.g ******

Doesn't matter, all those guys are ordinary: Tyson, Toney, Hopkins etc. They all got losses.

Of course Tyson beats RJJ who won his first title at MW. By that token Wlad is the best today since he destroys everyone else h2h. Hell Marco Huck >> Floyd, and David Haye >> Ward. And of course Wilder >>> Hopkins. But RJJ would absolutely murder Tyson if he fought him at LHW, hell Cleverly probably beats Tyson at 175 if Mike could make it past the ring ropes. Such a waste of time, jeeze.