Why are there so many duckers in boxing? why?

[Calm down mate]

Because when you lose in boxing, you're a bum according to most of the sports lame fans.

[Bushidō]

Because when you lose in boxing, you're a bum according to most of the sports lame fans.

exactly. we are very much to blame for fights not happening as much as the promoters.

[285Kid]

- Ricky Burns don't want to fight Terence Crawford
- Kell Brook don't want to fight Devon Alexander
- Martin Murray don't want to fight GGG

Eddie Hearn of Matchroom Sport is the problem

[New England]

[QUOTE =New England;13917842]fan ask for fights, and watch them at home on the couch.

fighters take punches to the head. you can die in there.

So you're saying that boxers make a career out of boxing but choose to duck dangerous fights because a concern of getting hurt and you're ok with that?

This is like baseball players saying they don't want to face certain pitchers because they throw to hard and don't want to risk getting hit by a pitch. Or football quarterbacks saying they don't want to play against a certain team because their linebackers hit too hard. Etc...

Plain and simple. If you're afraid of getting hit and hurt, then boxing is wrong profession for u.[/QUOTE]



you diddn't read any of my other posts. everything is covered there.

[ggg_kz]

Read all posts, and many refer to the money being the issue here. Reportedly, Murray was offered a bigger purse than he got in the Martinez fight.
While I tend to agree it's not Murray who ducked, I still believe Hutton is the one who didn't want him to face GG yet. I remember he referred to the Tszyu example in the past when it was necessary to wait until he grew old before fighting him.

[New England]

Read all posts, and many refer to the money being the issue here. Reportedly, Murray was offered a bigger purse than he got in the Martinez fight.
While I tend to agree it's not Murray who ducked, I still believe Hutton is the one who didn't want him to face GG yet. I remember he referred to the Tszyu example in the past when it was necessary to wait until he grew old before fighting him.

they're probably not interested in a serious beating at this point in murray's career. they can fight other guys for a bit less, but not a ton less. you live to fight another day win or lose against daniel geale, dazzling darren, etc. golovkin gives you a beating you can't take too many times in one career.


with golovkin it's not only about losing, it's about how you lose. golovkin might be the planet's hardest puncher. it's not like just getting outboxed. that's why martinez won't fight him.

[ggg_kz]

they're probably not interested in a serious beating at this point in murray's career. they can fight other guys for a bit less, but not a ton less. you live to fight another day win or lose against daniel geale, dazzling darren, etc. golovkin gives you a beating you can't take too many times in one career.


with golovkin it's not only about losing, it's about how you lose. golovkin might be the planet's hardest puncher. it's not like just getting outboxed. that's why martinez won't fight him.

Yes, it's all common sense. In the current situation those who lost to GG and got the spotlight have higher chances of meeting the other top guys than GG himself. One example is Rosado fighting Quillin. The other can be Macklin fighting Barker or even Stevens getting some other top.
It's a shame actually, but common sense. Golovkin is a victim of his own in the current scene. The only solution is see is offering twice the amount of money the challengers can get at the market just because Golovkin is too dangerous for long-term health.

[CraigM]

- Ricky Burns don't want to fight Terence Crawford
- Kell Brook don't want to fight Devon Alexander
- Martin Murray don't want to fight GGG

Eddie Hearn of Matchroom Sport is the problem

I'm starting to become less of a fan of Hearn but this isn't exactly correct is it...

Crawford wanted the fight in USA, the champion is in Scotland, go to him...
Brook got injured against Alexander and got himself back into the picture with a mandatory shot again...
Murray is promoted by Hatton Promotions, not Matchroom

[GhostBlade]

It's just a different time in boxing. Before boxers faced anyone because they probably weren't aware of the long-term life-threatening consequences of taking too much punishment to the head and that boxing is bigger than its ever been with the paydays. It's a health and business issue. Why take a dangerous fight for the same money that you can get for a guy that you view as a lesser threat?

[junior gong]

Read all posts, and many refer to the money being the issue here. Reportedly, Murray was offered a bigger purse than he got in the Martinez fight.
While I tend to agree it's not Murray who ducked, I still believe Hutton is the one who didn't want him to face GG yet. I remember he referred to the Tszyu example in the past when it was necessary to wait until he grew old before fighting him.

Reported by who? And if he wants to take a fight or two to get ready, whats the problem? He hasnt fought since April, so it makes sense to me. GGG is the best middleweight in the world at the moment and you would want to give yourself the best possible chance and be as sharp as possible going into a fight with him.

Calling Murray a ducker or to imply cowardice is frankly ridiculous. He had no problem going to Germany to fight Sturm and even ballsier, went to Argentina in front of a rabid, hostile crowd(also important to realise that there was a lot of tension building between Britain and Argentina) to face the best MW of the time and a guy high up in the p4p list.