Comments Thread For: Ward: Beating Golovkin Won’t ‘Catapult’ Me Past Floyd

[Tobi.G]

Ward has to work on his punching power.

[MDPopescu]

You and that King guy seem to be the most clueless posters in this thread. No one is opposing that those fights get made. What they are saying as well as Ward, is that even in beating those fighters, they don't do much for his ranking at the moment. GGG is a tremendous talent, I'm really big on Stevenson and I wouldn't miss a Kovalev fight for the world, funny guy, but most argue that these fighters have not done anything to make a win over them extraordinary. I'm sure everyone agrees that they would be decent wins for Ward. But how about if GGG beats Sergio, then a win would go from decent to great. Or what if Stevenson was to beat Kovalev before fighting Ward, that would then be a great win that would catapult his ranking. Floyd fought Canelo when 90% of the world begged for it, did it do anything for his ATG status? Absolutely not. Now if Canelo had beaten Lara, Angulo and Trout, then it would have been a phenomenal win for Floyd. Do you get where I'm going? A win over a good talent is cool, but a win over a proven talent is extraordinary.

... Endless bifurcation logic, jumpy sophims... ad infinitum...
And for what all these efforts?
... Only for supporting Ward's strange statement that he has not taking some particular fights right now because those fights would not help him become P4P #1... According to Ward's logic all the other top fighters in the sport should sit back and take some rest until Floyd retires and give up his P4p crown...

[MDPopescu]

Why are people getting so bent out of shape? All Ward said was that he's only focused on Rodriguez, you know his current opponent! Ward hasn't ducked anyone in his career which leads me to believe he would take on any of the fighters mentioned provided it made financial sense.

He definitely ducked Bute. This is common knowledge. Showtime protected Bute just for delivering him (on a plate, together with a big purse) to Ward, after the Super Six... And what Ward did? He let Froch pick the cherry on the cake.

[Jloro]

Ward has to work on his punching power.

He said he has been. It isn't like he is feather fisted beating guys like Froch around

[MDPopescu]

Sure.......I think this Rodriguez fight will be much tougher than people think it will be for Ward.

No, man...
If Ward is free from injuries (contracted during the training camp), he will win a shutout decision... That's what he does...

[boxingfeind]

Sounds like a duck to me

And Ward didn't clean out 168, he ducked Bute and fought everyone in his back yard

I never thought in my life that i would agree with you.

[boxingfeind]

golovkins resume is piss poor right now. he's fighting in one of the weakest divisions in the entire sport. ward beats him it won't make him number one.........now if ward beats him & someone like stevenson/kovolav it will.


but golovkins resumes is too poor & the competition is too weak.

Explain to me how Ward beating someone like Stevenson/Kovalev makes him number 1?

[MDPopescu]

Ward has to work on his punching power.

Andre Ward has almost all the skills, he's intelligent, coolheaded, and athletic...
Ward would have been the most fantastic fighter if he had great punching power in his right hand... But this is the only thing he hasn't... Hence his inverted southpaw stance and frequent injuries...

[MDPopescu]

Explain to me how Ward beating someone like Stevenson/Kovalev makes him number 1?

Being P4P #1 is a false axiomatic starting point...

Reductio ad absurdum: "It's pointless to fight someone if this doesn't make me ATG #1"... A.s.o...

This is childish logic... And you know that...

[firstborn]

He definitely ducked Bute. This is common knowledge. Showtime protected Bute just for delivering him (on a plate, together with a big purse) to Ward, after the Super Six... And what Ward did? He let Froch pick the cherry on the cake.

The above is not how the events played out, Ward broke his hand during the Froch fight and Froch took advantage of the oppertunity to fight Bute while Ward recovered. Ward was pretty vocal about Bute's hype and lack of resume but he didn't duck him.

The only thing Ward is truly guilty of is being injury prone!