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  • Mark_ehy
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    #141
    Originally posted by Cardinal Buck
    I can't help but question his care at the hospital. I wonder if some oversight happened with his treatment and helped to induce the stroke. Keep in mind that Mago decided to be put into the coma and have his head cut open, rather than entering the hospital in a coma.
    Not exactly

    You see he didn't just walk in there and choose it , he was vomiting in the street complaining of a head ache the boxing promotion wouldn't take him to the hospital on the way back to the hotel is when he almost died and was rushed to the hospital, there they discovered the clot and whilst operating on it he had a stroke

    From the inside info i got he also has some sort of lung infection

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    • crazed_z06
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      #142
      Originally posted by BostonGuy
      I'm curious to know - did HBO mention Mago on this week's broadcast?
      Yes. They gave the information on how to donate also.

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      • CubanGuyNYC
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        #143
        Originally posted by New England
        the post sensationalizes at times, but this looks like they're just telling us what happened.

        scary stuff, that. we've got to take better care of our fighters. thanks for posting.
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        Sensationalizes in what way? The guy had a broken hand, nose, jaw and swollen cheek/face and they didnt even call an ambulance for him. Just told his team to take him to the hospital to check out his nose.

        Im not sure why they have 5 doctors there if all they do is make you count to 5
        The Post is a rag. Always has been. From personal experience, I can tell you not to believe everything you read in the papers -- especially one like The Post. Obviously Mago suffered terrible injuries and wasn't tended to properly. It's the details I have trouble believing. Not that anything seems wrong with the article, just that we have no way of knowing if the reported details are accurate. And, trust me, newspapers fuck up details all the time.

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #144
          Boxing is a brutal sport and this is when you really question if it's worth it. He is a father and a husband. I think this is why boxing is a fringe sport now. I feel horrible for him and I think the corner should have stopped the fight after a certian point.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
            Boxing is a brutal sport and this is when you really question if it's worth it. He is a father and a husband. I think this is why boxing is a fringe sport now. I feel horrible for him and I think the corner should have stopped the fight after a certian point.
            I've been feeling that way lately. I suppose everyone who's ever left the sport has a fight that served as the final straw. For the famed sports announcer Howard Cosell, it was the Holmes-"Tex" Cobb fight. Cosell covered plenty of boxing matches; but he finally had enough with that bout, denounced the sport and refused to cover it any longer.

            What compounds the issue for me is that too many fans demand that boxers fight till their health or their very lives are taken. If they don't, they're ripped for being "boring" or "cowardly." It's utterly sickening.

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            • Cardinal Buck
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              #146
              Originally posted by Mark_ehy
              Not exactly

              You see he didn't just walk in there and choose it , he was vomiting in the street complaining of a head ache the boxing promotion wouldn't take him to the hospital on the way back to the hotel is when he almost died and was rushed to the hospital, there they discovered the clot and whilst operating on it he had a stroke

              From the inside info i got he also has some sort of lung infection
              Well, he did chose to be put in a coma, but that isnt my point. If any missteps were made at the hospital, it could have induced the stroke. For example, if he were put on too high of a dose of blood thinners it could have caused it. I'm purely speculating.

              Also, the lung infection is very likely to have been caused by the hospital. Happens a lot.

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              • BostonGuy
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                #147
                Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                Boxing is a brutal sport and this is when you really question if it's worth it. He is a father and a husband. I think this is why boxing is a fringe sport now. I feel horrible for him and I think the corner should have stopped the fight after a certian point.
                I think everyone on Mago's team, including himself, got caught up in the moment and lost sight of the ultimate health and safety of him.

                Before this fight Magomed was considered a fringe contender but this one was gonna propel him into the mix getting him into the title picture. The WBC was solidly behind him, this was his HBO debut and I got the sense leading up to the fight everyone (in his team) felt that this was gonna be his big break. The stakes were set extremey high for this fight and as result, everyone involved lost sight of the inherent danger of such a violent fight.


                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                I've been feeling that way lately. I suppose everyone who's ever left the sport has a fight that served as the final straw. For the famed sports announcer Howard Cosell, it was the Holmes-"Tex" Cobb fight. Cosell covered plenty of boxing matches; but he finally had enough with that bout, denounced the sport and refused to cover it any longer.

                What compounds the issue for me is that too many fans demand that boxers fight till their health or their very lives are taken. If they don't, they're ripped for being "boring" or "cowardly." It's utterly sickening.
                I always thought that Howard Cosell overreacted to that fight. I didn't think the Cobb-Holmes was that brutal. Really it was just an boxing exhibition put on by the Champ against a crude brawler; Cobb was hit with a lot of clean flush shots but they weren't as damaging as Cosell would leave you to believe.

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                • CubanGuyNYC
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by BostonGuy
                  I think everyone on Mago's team, including himself, got caught up in the moment and lost sight of the ultimate health and safety of him.

                  Before this fight Magomed was considered a fringe contender but this one was gonna propel him into the mix getting him into the title picture. The WBC was solidly behind him, this was his HBO debut and I got the sense leading up to the fight everyone (in his team) felt that this was gonna be his big break. The stakes were set extremey high for this fight and as result, everyone involved lost sight of the inherent danger of such a violent fight.
                  There was a lot of potential future earnings at stake, no doubt. Many people have risked their lives -- or the lives of others -- for less. I can certainly understand the conditions that brought about this tragedy. In the end, it's really up to the officials to look out for the fighters' safety. Everyone else is too personally vested in the outcome of a fight.

                  Originally posted by BostonGuy
                  I always thought that Howard Cosell overreacted to that fight. I didn't think the Cobb-Holmes was that brutal. Really it was just an boxing exhibition put on by the Champ against a crude brawler; Cobb was hit with a lot of clean flush shots but they weren't as damaging as Cosell would leave you to believe.
                  Maybe. I haven't watched the fight in years. I can't offer an opinion. It's likely that Cosell had been building up to that moment for years. He was fairly old by then, probably weary of all the beatings he'd watched. The Holmes-Cobb bout might've simply put Cosell over the edge.

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                  • Tom Cruise
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                    #149
                    Is there no new news on this?

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                    • Mark_ehy
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Cardinal Buck
                      Well, he did chose to be put in a coma, but that isnt my point. If any missteps were made at the hospital, it could have induced the stroke. For example, if he were put on too high of a dose of blood thinners it could have caused it. I'm purely speculating.

                      Also, the lung infection is very likely to have been caused by the hospital. Happens a lot.
                      I see what you're saying but we're all just speculating here, We know he took a lot of hard shots to the head, we also know he walked out of the ring on his own, we know the fight was on saturday night, we know he was only in the hospital by Sunday. When you say "he chose to be put in a coma" really the actual choice you have is *go into a barbituate induced coma to fix the blood clot* or *die* blood clot isn't going to fix itself blood clots lead to strokes i have a hard time believing that "they fixed the blood clot" and then "he had a stroke" if you fix a blood clot then you aren't going to have a stroke because that's what a stroke is, a blockage of red blood cells that carry oxygen through a vessel

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