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  • #41
    Originally posted by crold1 View Post
    Dawson and Cloud are. Bellew is a solid. Adonis is the only other guy O see a case for.
    Stevenson and Kovalev both have the strongest case (assuming both win by KO on the 30th) both in terms of activity and performance. (4 KOs each).

    Dawson > Cleverly (Both champions, but Dawson coming off loss)
    Campillo > Cloud (Both ex-champions)
    White > Boone

    Bellew > Sillakh (Similar quality but Bellew has better resume).

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    • #42
      HW- Wilder
      LHW- Hopkins
      MW- Golovkin
      WW- Mayweather
      LW- Garcia
      Lighter class-Rigodouex

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      • #43
        Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
        Really? You consider Cloud high quality? He absolutely sucks and Dawson was finished at the top level, Bellew isn't very good either. That is not high quality.
        Cloud is quality in the sense of a recent title holder. Entered on a two fight losing streak (Campillo decision stunk) but still a top ten Light Heavy with some good wins under his belt. Dawson might be finished (I think Stevenson could do that to any version of him; Dawson always a little chinny and Stevenson got nukes). As a body of work for the year, including the lineal crown at 75, good stuff. How he did it counts too. He ran over Cloud physically; hadn't been done before. Dawson one-punched was impressive.

        I think Sosa's KO of Solis is superior. I think beating GGG is too. Bellew is a solid contender. He ain't better than Yaegashi.
        Last edited by crold1; 11-03-2013, 07:19 PM.

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        • #44
          GGG or Hopkins should not be a candidates for FOTY.Their opposition this year wasn`t all that.Floyd,Rigo,Stevenson and Danny Garcia should be candidates.

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          • #45
            Danny Garcia. His dad is trainer of the year. Give credit where credit is due.

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            • #46
              Adonis Stevenson. Came from nowhere to being the man.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by crold1 View Post
                Cloud is quality in the sense of a recent title holder. Entered on a two fight losing streak (Campillo decision stunk) but still a top ten Light Heavy with some good wins under his belt.
                What wins were these exactly? His best win is an even fight with a washed up Glen. Cloud is hot garbage. Being a title holder is literally just a title and ignores the fact that he ******, not to mention there is no distinct accomplishment in order to obtain a title anymore.

                Dawson might be finished (I think Stevenson could do that to any version of him; Dawson always a little chinny and Stevenson got nukes).
                Thats irrelevant, 'could haves' do not add credit to a win. Most would agree that Floyd would dominate any version of JMM, that opinion doesn't mean he should be credited more for the version he beat.

                As a body of work for the year, including the lineal crown at 75, good stuff. How he did it counts too. He ran over Cloud physically; hadn't been done before. Dawson one-punched was impressive.
                How he did it reflects the low quality of opposition.

                I think Sosa's KO of Solis is superior. I think beating GGG is too. Bellew is a solid contender. He ain't better than Yaegashi.
                Bellew isn't solid, he really isn't any good. Yaegashi the one who fought Ioka?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by crold1 View Post
                  If Edgar Sosa beats Akira Yaegashi, it should be Sosa. No one else has THREE high quality wins this year. He would. Still a big if, but knocking off the lineal Fly king would be a capper.
                  You actually stole my thought! I can't wait for this fight

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
                    What wins were these exactly? His best win is an even fight with a washed up Glen. Cloud is hot garbage. Being a title holder is literally just a title and ignores the fact that he ******, not to mention there is no distinct accomplishment in order to obtain a title anymore.



                    Thats irrelevant, 'could haves' do not add credit to a win. Most would agree that Floyd would dominate any version of JMM, that opinion doesn't mean he should be credited more for the version he beat.



                    How he did it reflects the low quality of opposition.



                    Bellew isn't solid, he really isn't any good. Yaegashi the one who fought Ioka?
                    Yes, that one.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
                      Really? You consider Cloud high quality? He absolutely sucks and Dawson was finished at the top level, Bellew isn't very good either. That is not high quality.
                      Three top 10 opponents (#1, #4 & #6?) No one knows if Dawson is finished yet even now. Still has to beat Bellew mind.
                      Last edited by Weebler I; 11-03-2013, 08:01 PM.

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