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  • Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post
    What talent? Once you take out Ward and Froch the division is really not that talented. Kessler is shot, GGG has already KO'd Bute, Stieglitz, Groves, and De Gale would all get stopped. Abraham is shot to pieces and never belonged at 168; doesn't even have power at the weight.

    If Froch were Golovkin's size he would probably get KO'd easily, the size advantage makes it competitive. Andre Ward is the real deal but he's the best in the division by a country mile.
    There's not that much of a size difference man, by all accounts they weigh the same on fight night. Froch was talking about doing a catchweight for Golovkin but listening to Loeffler I don't think K2 are so keen on the Froch and Ward bouts.

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    • Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
      You cant expect lower level fighters to come forward, something which stevens has done in his last few fights? There is nothing hard about sustaining a forward momentum, especially when GOlovkin doesnt know how to fight against it, right? so why not to to do it? WHen he did he, he had success, so why not keep doing it? Doesnt makes sense.

      Like i said that ALL chavez does, yet stevens couldnt even TRY?
      you can't expect a c level guy like stevens to SUSTAIN a come forward attack........(not come forward) but to actually sustain it. he was tiring out which greatly influenced him going to the ropes for a breather.........

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      • Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
        Exactly my point.

        If Golovkin cant fight backwards, the reasonable thing is to attempt to push him back. Now if you attempt to push him back yet get your ass beat even worse then going backwards, then how is it that golovkin cant fight backwards? Its an oxymoron of sorts

        Again Stevens never tried other then like 3 spurts of that last 5 seconds, he didnt try. Why are people pretending like he did, i dont understand. Claiming that Stevens isnt good even of a fighter to try and come forward is ridiculous
        Because Golovkin didn't prevent Stevens from forcing the fight by moving backward, when he moved backward he looked uncomfortable and was getting tagged.

        He did it by claiming the centre of the ring and forcing him back, that's what he likes to do and is very very effective at doing. He might not be able to fight well off the backfoot but it's a damn hard task getting him onto the back foot, which is what makes Golovkin good and difficult to beat.

        Golovkin forcing Stevens back and preventing Stevens from forcing him back doesn't prove that Golovkin is good off the back foot. The seldom times Stevens let his hands go or landed a punch that backed Golovkin up momentarily he didn't look comfortable or effective. When Golovkin stood his ground Stevens couldn't do anything he was getting picked off. That's the difference.

        It's not ridiculous at all, Stevens doesn't have the skills, strength experience or conditioning to force Golovkin back on a consistent basis. Once he felt his power properly he went into survival mode.

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          He didn't expose Golovkin, he just highlighted a weakness.

          He did try, when he had success and was teeing off on him he likely thought that he's going to continue that success. Then Golovkin stepped it up and starting landing some accurate clean punches and he decided that if he does that it's going to be short night.

          The difference is Chavez is willing to take the punishment that Stevens clearly wasn't.
          It was 5 seconds long spurts! Its micro picking at its best. The guy couldnt do it for even half a min. It was the same thing in the Rosado fight, "OMG did you see rosado land that counter? Golokvin can be easily countered all night long"

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          • Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
            you can't expect a c level guy like stevens to SUSTAIN a come forward attack........(not come forward) but to actually sustain it. he was tiring out which greatly influenced him going to the ropes for a breather.........
            Yet Chavez jr can do it? Soto Karass? Those guys must be A fighters

            Again im saying he didnt even try. He could have tried to come forward and then have golovkin push back but he didnt even try. And now its obvious Golovkin cant fight backwards, so if he tried, he would presumably have success, right (at least more then he did laying on the ropes)

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            • Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
              It was 5 seconds long spurts! Its micro picking at its best. The guy couldnt do it for even half a min. It was the same thing in the Rosado fight, "OMG did you see rosado land that counter? Golokvin can be easily countered all night long"
              What don't you understand?

              Golovkin prevented it with his own superior skill set and ability.

              If Golovkin didn't have crushing one punch KO power and was an inferior fighter, Stevens likely would have attempted to walk him down the entire fight but Golovkin stopped that.

              The seldom times Stevens did manage to do something, the holes showed. Golovkin was good enough to not let it happen often.

              And 5 second long spurts is an exaggeration, the sole time he really let his hands go in the fight he was landing solid combinatons, which landed longer than 5 seconds, at the end of one of the rounds, the next round he tried to continue it and got heavily dropped and then decided that it's time to shut up shot and hope to survive.

              It's not micro picking it's a simple observation, the few times he was forced onto the backfoot he did not look comfortable or good.

              The combination of Golovin's ability and Steven's lack of ability meant it couldn't be sustained.

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              • Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                Yet Chavez jr can do it? Soto Karass? Those guys must be A fighters

                Again im saying he didnt even try. He could have tried to come forward and then have golovkin push back but he didnt even try. And now its obvious Golovkin cant fight backwards, so if he tried, he would presumably have success, right (at least more then he did laying on the ropes)
                Like I mentioned, the difference is they are willing to take the punishment that Stevens wasn't. He knew after feeling the power that if he went for it he'd be starched.

                I'm not sure what you're not getting, Stevens did try, when reality sunk in he decided that's not a good idea.

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                • just caught the fight and um some of you guys are being a bit harsh. yeah stevens gave him a couple of good looks but ggg handled it like a champ.

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                  • Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                    It was 5 seconds long spurts! Its micro picking at its best. The guy couldnt do it for even half a min. It was the same thing in the Rosado fight, "OMG did you see rosado land that counter? Golokvin can be easily countered all night long"
                    LOL I honestly don't get it? He get's hit while backing up for a few seconds after beating the **** of a turtled up stevens who unleashes a desperation attack and it's seen as a weakness? OMFG!

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                    • Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                      Yet Chavez jr can do it? Soto Karass? Those guys must be A fighters

                      Again im saying he didnt even try. He could have tried to come forward and then have golovkin push back but he didnt even try. And now its obvious Golovkin cant fight backwards, so if he tried, he would presumably have success, right (at least more then he did laying on the ropes)
                      dude, karrass & chavez are both brawlers............

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