Andre Ward:I have a new arsenal. I have a lot of power in both hands!+Drug Testing

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  • DoktorSleepless
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    #91
    Originally posted by PBP
    Because that's how it works. What your required to do is specified in your contract. At that point, the fights on. No more negotiating, no more talking, you move forward with what you agreed to.

    And besides, Rodriguez needs to play his role. He's a tuneup demanding a million dollars and now trying to turn around and is now trying to play head games. If he was that serious about it he would have not agreed to fight. Like Floyd did in 2009 and like Bradley did this year.
    The whole point of PED testing is to go beyond what you're required to do. If you're truly an anti-doping advocate (which is something Ward pretends to be), it's not something that should need to be negotiated, especially if it's free. Actually, the fact that Ward didn't bring it up himself is even more telling.

    I'm not even accusing Ward of being dirty. I'm saying he's an all talk flimflam fraud.
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Why should Ward have to do anything special for E-rod? he is after all a relatively unknown challenger. Ward is right its a stunt and has nothing to do with the business aspect of the fight as it was not in the contract.
    Taking the tests isn't doing anything special for Rodriguez. Rodriguez doesn't care if Ward accepts it. Conte is paying for it so it doesn't affect his wallet either way. If Rodriguez actually cared if ward did extra testing, he would have negotiated it in the contract.

    Ward accepting the $20k gift is doing something for himself, the fans, and the sport of boxing.

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    • Jloro
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      #92
      Originally posted by PBP
      This is an issue in the first place because Edwin brought it up to play head games. Ward's refusal to **** around with him caused people to be su****ious. When in fact, the reason for his refusal is clear. Edwin is the challenger and he can't force Ward to do anything. So far this particular fight, Ward isn't doing **** and giving him any mental edge.

      And he does want to prove he's clean. That's why he said he will start beginning in his next fight.
      Exactly. People just want to make it an issue to discredit Ward.

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      • zuldo
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        #93
        Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
        Ward is clearly on PEDs because he is a top fighter and many people dont like him, his style and his fans. I mean, who needs proof?
        Nop he's on peds because is his obligation to take the test and he's no doing it

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        • Spray_resistant
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          #94
          Originally posted by DoktorSleepless

          Taking the tests isn't doing anything special for Rodriguez. Rodriguez doesn't care if Ward accepts it. Conte is paying for it so it doesn't affect his wallet either way. If Rodriguez actually cared if ward did extra testing, he would have negotiated it in the contract.

          Ward accepting the $20k gift is doing something for himself, the fans, and the sport of boxing.
          It is something special done because he is not obligated and doesn't owe it to anyone, maybe he feels he has nothing to prove.

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          • Spray_resistant
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            #95
            Originally posted by zuldo
            Nop he's on peds because is his obligation to take the test and he's no doing it
            Its actually not

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            • DoktorSleepless
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              #96
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              It is something special done because he is not obligated .
              Yes, I agree taking these extra tests is doing something special. It's not special for Rodriguez though. It's doing something special for himself.

              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              Maybe he feels he has nothing to prove
              This is what Ward has claimed he feels.

              it would be great for the sport to implement something like Olympic-style drug testing," he continued

              Ward strongly believes that all fighters should take more stringent tests in order to ensure an even playing field amongst combatants. "I want to take things a step further and impelement it, not just talk about it, and be one of the first to actually do it outside of Floyd Mayweather,
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              Obviously, you're right though. He doesn't give a damn. Hence the flim-flamming.

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              • WESS
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                #97
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Ward is a thinking man. A man of intelligence. He says a lot of Sound things and does a lot of Sound things.

                But on the PED issue he is so wrong. How can a man of his intellect refuse to take the test. it might have been a PR stunt from Rodriguez, but Ward lost the PR war big time. He looks as guilty as one can look without getting caught redhanded.

                Thanks for posting.
                Simple, Ward's thinking if Pac got the pass all them years of ducking so could he. The problem is everyone knows it was just that "ducking" and nobody will give Ward a pass now days. I mean you have people that had been down right hatefully apposed to testing who are screaming cheat this and cheat that if a fighter doesn't test.

                However, I think Ward made a huge mistake on this one. He should have taken the stance regardless. Ward can't play that god role or the trust me role. Today, you either take the test or you don't and by not doing so, you will pay the price.

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                • -PBP-
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                  The whole point of PED testing is to go beyond what you're required to do. If you're truly an anti-doping advocate (which is something Ward pretends to be), it's not something that should need to be negotiated, especially if it's free. Actually, the fact that Ward didn't bring it up himself is even more telling.

                  I'm not even accusing Ward of being dirty. I'm saying he's an all talk flimflam fraud.

                  Taking the tests isn't doing anything special for Rodriguez. Rodriguez doesn't care if Ward accepts it. Conte is paying for it so it doesn't affect his wallet either way. If Rodriguez actually cared if ward did extra testing, he would have negotiated it in the contract.

                  Ward accepting the $20k gift is doing something for himself, the fans, and the sport of boxing.
                  He gave you a reason on that article. Since then he's only had one fight. He said he's looking into it and he will do it when he damn well pleases.

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                  • DoktorSleepless
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    He gave you a reason on that article. Since then he's only had one fight. He said he's looking into it and he will do it when he damn well pleases.
                    The reason Ward gave was money. But that's no longer an excuse because VADA is much cheaper, Ward is making a ton more money on HBO, and Rodriguez is offering a way to finance it for free.

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                    • CraigM
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by HanzGruber
                      Just like I said 100 times now as did ward, the challenger has no business making demands from the champ. Let alone AFTER the contracts are signed and at a press conference lol. Years ago asking for testing was considered ducking, now a guy asking the champ and he's considered a cheater lol
                      Actually... any fighter getting into the ring deserves to know the person he is fighting is drug free to be honest.

                      Bit of a silly comment to make as it's their health at risk.

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