Andre Ward:I have a new arsenal. I have a lot of power in both hands!+Drug Testing

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  • Russian Crushin
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    #81
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Yep. That's the way I see it too, as long as he does that people aren't going to be able to question him about it.

    And let's be real. A lot of the so called fans on here who are on Ward's case are either the typical butthurt Euros that hate to see American fighters do well or they are the racist Mexican fans that hate black fighters.

    Am I wrong?
    Because its not because Ward has refused testing for this fight, no way jose

    Funny seeing Floyd fans defend Ward

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    • joseph5620
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      #82
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      Because its not because Ward has refused testing for this fight, no way jose

      Funny seeing Floyd fans defend Ward
      It's equally funny seeing the people who vehemently defended Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez over not
      testing flipping the script with Ward only because they don't like Ward or any fighters that look like him.


      I think Ward should take the test. I'm consistent on this issue and it doesn't change based on the fighter in question.
      Last edited by joseph5620; 10-30-2013, 03:21 PM.

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      • Jloro
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        #83
        If you think Marquez was clean and Ward is not there is something wrong lol

        Unless Ward comes in like monster and Brutally KO's the guy I don't have much su****ion

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          #84
          Originally posted by Russian Crushin
          TO ward: why not take the test you're advocating?
          Because its not in his contract.


          I hope you were this adamant about Pacquiao in 2009 or Marquez against Bradley. Or how about Mike Alvarado?
          Last edited by -PBP-; 10-30-2013, 03:49 PM.

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          • DoktorSleepless
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            #85
            Originally posted by PBP
            Because its not in his contract.
            Why does a $20k gift from Rodriguez need to be negotiated in a contract?

            Hopefully I don't have to write a bunch of contracts when Christmas comes around.
            Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 10-30-2013, 03:58 PM.

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            • Russian Crushin
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              #86
              Originally posted by PBP
              Because its not in his contract.


              I hope you were this adamant about Pacquiao in 2009 or Marquez against Bradley. Or how about Mike Alvarado?
              So? He's an advocate of drug testing and payment is covered, why not take the tests if he has nothing to hide?

              Again, nobody is forcing or demanding him to take the test, but why not take it when he's called out on them? It has simply come down to Ward voluntarily proving that he is clean, and he said no. (after advocating for the tests for many years).
              Last edited by Russian Crushin; 10-30-2013, 04:02 PM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                Why does a $20k gift from Rodriguez need to be negotiated in a contract?

                Hopefully I don't have to write a bunch of contracts when Christmas comes around.
                Because that's how it works. What your required to do is specified in your contract. At that point, the fights on. No more negotiating, no more talking, you move forward with what you agreed to.

                And besides, Rodriguez needs to play his role. He's a tuneup demanding a million dollars and now trying to turn around and is now trying to play head games. If he was that serious about it he would have not agreed to fight. Like Floyd did in 2009 and like Bradley did this year.

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                • Russian Crushin
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  Because that's how it works. What your required to do is specified in your contract. At that point, the fights on. No more negotiating, no more talking, you move forward with what you agreed to.

                  And besides, Rodriguez needs to play his role. He's a tuneup demanding a million dollars and now trying to turn around and is now trying to play head games. If he was that serious about it he would have not agreed to fight. Like Floyd did in 2009 and like Bradley did this year.
                  The opportunity came up to show that he's clean, a free one at that. Why not prove that he's clean. Nothing bad can arise from it (other than getting caught), and he would look good taking it, showing that he's clean.

                  You're still suck on pretending Edwin is demanding he take the tests, he isn't. He's not negotiating anything, the fight is happening whether he does testing or not. The question is why wont Ward take the test voluntarily. It not being in the contract makes no difference at all

                  Besides the fact that it must be in a contract to prove that you're clean is ridiculous on its own. Its not in the contract for Edwin to take the test, yet he's taking it.

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                  • Spray_resistant
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                    Why does a $20k gift from Rodriguez need to be negotiated in a contract?

                    Hopefully I don't have to write a bunch of contracts when Christmas comes around.
                    Why should Ward have to do anything special for E-rod? he is after all a relatively unknown challenger. Ward is right its a stunt and has nothing to do with the business aspect of the fight as it was not in the contract.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      The opportunity came up to show that he's clean, a free one at that. Why not prove that he's clean. Nothing bad can arise from it (other than getting caught), and he would look good taking it, showing that he's clean.

                      You're still suck on pretending Edwin is demanding he take the tests, he isn't. He's not negotiating anything, the fight is happening whether he does testing or not. The question is why wont Ward take the test voluntarily. It not being in the contract makes no difference at all

                      Besides the fact that it must be in a contract to prove that you're clean is ridiculous on its own. Its not in the contract for Edwin to take the test, yet he's taking it.
                      This is an issue in the first place because Edwin brought it up to play head games. Ward's refusal to **** around with him caused people to be su****ious. When in fact, the reason for his refusal is clear. Edwin is the challenger and he can't force Ward to do anything. So far this particular fight, Ward isn't doing **** and giving him any mental edge.

                      And he does want to prove he's clean. That's why he said he will start beginning in his next fight.

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