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  • Pacquiao'd
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    #361
    Originally posted by PennyAnd1
    Pacquiao has good character and was never afraid to take any challenges, he's proven that time & time again. His character was never in question. USADA was only known when my boy Floyd made noise of it during their first negotiation.

    If Ya'll gonna criticize Pacquiao about not taking USADA or even questioning the man because he refused, then you're gonna have to look back at history way even before USADA became a part of boxing. You're gonna have to question Tommy Hearns, Sugar Ray Leanard, Muhammed Ali, Roberto Duran, Julio Chavez, and the list goes on and on. We all know how the 80s used to be steroid-based when it came to athletes. It was common back then. With this in mind, it's pure bull**** to take away credit from Pac if you ain't taking it away from other greats from the past.

    As much as I love my boy Floyd, and I believe Floyd can beat Pac with his superior defense & slick movements, I ain't blinding myself to the fact that Floyd brought this up when Pac became an option. Why then? What made him decide to put that against Pac if he truly believes he can beat Pac? C'mon Floyd, if you're truly the man in charge you can make any fight happen. The ball is in your court. Don't deny us boxing fans what was supposed to be the best match of an era.
    Pure comedy right here

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    • PAC-BOY
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      #362
      Originally posted by Pacquiao'd
      How can Floyd fight PAC when PAC refused to fight?

      Live with what? Beating young hungry champs making 80mil while PAC has been ko, lost to Bradley and fighting losers missing his biggest payday had he fought Floyd? For some reason you seem to think Floyd needs PAC, it's the other way around.

      And Floyd wouldn't have been top 5, PAC ain't no where near that great. Just stop it, boy

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      • loui_ludwig
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        #363
        Originally posted by Pacquiao'd
        Too bad your recollection is wrong
        Then show proof that Pac said he refuse OST.

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        • No.
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          #364
          One of the biggest boxing events in history didn't happen because Pac didn't want to a partake in a scaled back version of a drug testing program that he now claims is "good for boxing".

          What happened to "needles make weak" & being "blood drained" if he were to participate in random drug testing?

          "Let the commisions do their job" right?

          As Pac's barganing position changed & weakened. So did his stance on this issue. Pac making a quote like this is pretty much accepting full responsibility for Mayweather-Pac not happening.

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          • Marvellous1
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            #365
            Originally posted by richardt
            The ONLY "DOING IT" is when a contract for the fight is signed and the money is agreed on and a negotiation takes place first which is what Floyd was trying to start by calling Pac on the phone and making the offer he did.
            Either you missed the crux of the question or you're being wilfully ignorant (which I don't believe as you're a good poster).

            I'm talking about Pacquiao going from merely SAYING he'd do testing for one fight (for the biggest pay day), but not doing it for any others, and actually initiating it HIMSELF for what seems like all his fights now it's "for the good of boxing". You have to admit it's a seismic shift in stance. What brought him to this point? Why is it good for boxing now, but it wasn't when such a big fight was one the line?

            I wish people had the courage to discuss a Pacquiao's words without dragging other fighters into it to save face. You have to admit, he's done a complete 180 on an important issue. The biggest fight in modern history didn't happen in huge part due to Pacquiao's stance on random blood testing, testing which he NOW says is good for boxing. The point is, it's taken four years to come to this realisation. Two to agree to it in principle and four years to actually participate. This is something worth discussing but some people can't move past their same petty arguing. We know Mayweather is a hypocrite, contradicts himself, picks his fights, yada, yada, yada.....

            Now can we discuss Pacquiao and THIS point?

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            • DARKSEID
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              #366
              =/ ...........

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              • MindBat
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                #367
                Originally posted by PennyAnd1
                Pacquiao has good character and was never afraid to take any challenges, he's proven that time & time again. His character was never in question. USADA was only known when my boy Floyd made noise of it during their first negotiation.

                If Ya'll gonna criticize Pacquiao about not taking USADA or even questioning the man because he refused, then you're gonna have to look back at history way even before USADA became a part of boxing. You're gonna have to question Tommy Hearns, Sugar Ray Leanard, Muhammed Ali, Roberto Duran, Julio Chavez, and the list goes on and on. We all know how the 80s used to be steroid-based when it came to athletes. It was common back then. With this in mind, it's pure bull**** to take away credit from Pac if you ain't taking it away from other greats from the past.

                As much as I love my boy Floyd, and I believe Floyd can beat Pac with his superior defense & slick movements, I ain't blinding myself to the fact that Floyd brought this up when Pac became an option. Why then? What made him decide to put that against Pac if he truly believes he can beat Pac? C'mon Floyd, if you're truly the man in charge you can make any fight happen. The ball is in your court. Don't deny us boxing fans what was supposed to be the best match of an era.
                By that same logic and reasoning, why didn't Team Pacquiao just drop the lawsuit, take the test, laced them up, fight, and beat Floyd???

                Was he that insecure of himself?

                Now what if Floyd had another trick up his sleeve? What if Pac had taken the test and it was known that he did indeed juice up? Would people be surprised?

                After all the praise and accolades Pac had received it would've been the most shocking revelation of his entire career.

                Would you and any of the Pac fans still have wanted that fight to happen?

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                • MindBat
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                  #368
                  Originally posted by No.
                  One of the biggest boxing events in history didn't happen because Pac didn't want to a partake in a scaled back version of a drug testing program that he now claims is "good for boxing".

                  What happened to "needles make weak" & being "blood drained" if he were to participate in random drug testing?

                  "Let the commissions do their job" right?

                  As Pac's bargaining position changed & weakened. So did his stance on this issue. Pac making a quote like this is pretty much accepting full responsibility for Mayweather-Pac not happening.
                  Exactly. Pac's now got to show he can beat any of the current top welters to even consider a fight with Floyd. The consensus believes it's all hype.
                  Pac never intended to fight Floyd.

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                  • Spoon23
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                    #369
                    Allot of flowmo spin doctors here. Just tell your boy to man up after PAC beats the Shiiiits of of Rios.

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                    • Marvellous1
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                      #370
                      Originally posted by Spoon23
                      Allot of flowmo spin doctors here. Just tell your boy to man up after PAC beats the Shiiiits of of Rios.
                      You're too caught up I petty arguing to see the point of article. Pacquiao NOW believes random blood testing is "good for boxing". Four years after the issue was first raised, he has gone from agreeing in principle (but never taking part) to initiating "for the good of boxing". Do you not see the irony in this? Answer the natural leading question....."why is it good for boxing now and not before?"

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