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  • kadyo's
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    #331
    l wonder if the writer intentionally wrote this article to rekindle an almost forgotten nsb war. Maybe he's trolling but l'm not so sure.

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    • sugarsmosley
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      #332
      Originally posted by kadyo
      l wonder if the writer intentionally wrote this article to rekindle an almost forgotten nsb war. Maybe he's trolling but l'm not so sure.
      Their could be an article titled "Manny Pacquiao eats breakfast" and it'd still get 200 replies

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      • J The UnBiased
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        #333
        Originally posted by PennyAnd1
        Pacquiao has good character and was never afraid to take any challenges, he's proven that time & time again. His character was never in question. USADA was only known when my boy Floyd made noise of it during their first negotiation.

        If Ya'll gonna criticize Pacquiao about not taking USADA or even questioning the man because he refused, then you're gonna have to look back at history way even before USADA became a part of boxing. You're gonna have to question Tommy Hearns, Sugar Ray Leanard, Muhammed Ali, Roberto Duran, Julio Chavez, and the list goes on and on. We all know how the 80s used to be steroid-based when it came to athletes. It was common back then. With this in mind, it's pure bull**** to take away credit from Pac if you ain't taking it away from other greats from the past.

        As much as I love my boy Floyd, and I believe Floyd can beat Pac with his superior defense & slick movements, I ain't blinding myself to the fact that Floyd brought this up when Pac became an option. Why then? What made him decide to put that against Pac if he truly believes he can beat Pac? C'mon Floyd, if you're truly the man in charge you can make any fight happen. The ball is in your court. Don't deny us boxing fans what was supposed to be the best match of an era.
        Maybe Floyd brought up testing because he genuinely felt that Manny wasn't a clean fighter. Maybe, just a thought. But I agree, if you are going to accuse Manny then you're gonna have to accuse everyone else, but here's the difference. The guys you mentioned were not approached about random blood testing, Manny was. Because those that you mentioned were not approached about the matter we can't hold them to the same standard. Manny was approached by it and things got shaken up a bit. That's where the accusations lye for most fans. It's not his performances that raise su****ions, at least for me. It's the fact that things got a little weird when he was confronted about testing and how it became a deal breaker. I gotta admit, it raises an eyebrow.

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        • J The UnBiased
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          #334
          Originally posted by Starz20
          Beating an undefeated Canelo, Diego, and Hatton is real legit. Beating Mosley after he destroyed Margacheato then beating: Cotto, De La Hoya, Ortiz, Marquez, Guerrero and Judah. When they were hot.

          Dude has great wins end of story in '08 people thought Pac lost to Marquez. So one year later maybe even 2 this is the guy to make or break Floyd's legacy? So regardless of all those great win's he is not a top 5 ATG to you? Well that is your opinion I respect that.

          But to me their is no other fighter with the: Defense, skills, countering ability, stamina and ring generalship that could match him. And he is 36 still doing this.

          So when the hell does Floyd get out of his prime? Was he in it when he beat Diego?? Judah? Canelo??

          You see where I am going with this. Dude is an All time great, and with or without Pac people will say that whether you like it or not.
          I'm a Floyd fan too, but they weren't hot lol, they were Champs, but I wouldn't necessarily say hot. Oscar was past it, but still good. Cotto was past it, still good and so was Floyd. But Judah was coming off of a loss. That fight was signed before Zab lost to Carlos, but still, Judah wasn't hot. He was physically prime coming off a loss. Great fight tho

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          • rambov
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            #335
            This is why capital punishment works.

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            • J The UnBiased
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              #336
              Originally posted by PennyAnd1
              That's where you don't understand Pac. Pac is and has always been loyal to those who do him good. Top Rank & Pac has good relationship. Why break that up just to fight Floyd when we know the fight can happen anyways if Floyd wants it to?
              Why is it that it is ok for Bob and Manny to make fighters sign with Top Rank so that they can get a fight but it's not ok for Floyd to do the same. Everything is up too Floyd? I'm not with these double standards dude. Everybody's gotta compromise and they are both to blame for this fight, but y'all are killing me with this Manny is an Angel act, got damn. Y'all can not have it both ways. If it's ok for Manny to do these things then it should be ok for Floyd.

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              • PennyAnd1
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                #337
                Originally posted by J The UnBiased
                Maybe Floyd brought up testing because he genuinely felt that Manny wasn't a clean fighter. Maybe, just a thought. But I agree, if you are going to accuse Manny then you're gonna have to accuse everyone else, but here's the difference. The guys you mentioned were not approached about random blood testing, Manny was. Because those that you mentioned were not approached about the matter we can't hold them to the same standard. Manny was approached by it and things got shaken up a bit. That's where the accusations lye for most fans. It's not his performances that raise su****ions, at least for me. It's the fact that things got a little weird when he was confronted about testing and how it became a deal breaker. I gotta admit, it raises an eyebrow.
                Alright I see what your going with here. Just to let you know I love my boy Floyd, but if he brought that up against Pac then you have to agree with me that there was fear in Floyd's part then. I don't want to accuse the man of being afraid, but it makes you wonder too.

                Still VADA has always been boxing's Drug tool, and has caught many boxers. I don't think USADA has caught any cheaters yet. If I'm wrong let me know. But at that time, Pac had the right to deny Mayweather of full control during the first negotiation since Pac was bigger than Floyd at that time.

                The hell with it! I can't find anything to argue against Pac because he's such a good dude and has entertained me as a boxing fan. He keeps it simple letting the rules & his promoters do the talking. It's what boxer's are supposed to do. Floyd & Pac has to get in that ring. I need their fight video place on top of my fight collections. It's an empty space right now. ****!

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                • PennyAnd1
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                  #338
                  Originally posted by J The UnBiased
                  Why is it that it is ok for Bob and Manny to make fighters sign with Top Rank so that they can get a fight but it's not ok for Floyd to do the same. Everything is up too Floyd? I'm not with these double standards dude. Everybody's gotta compromise and they are both to blame for this fight, but y'all are killing me with this Manny is an Angel act, got damn. Y'all can not have it both ways. If it's ok for Manny to do these things then it should be ok for Floyd.
                  I don't remember Manny asking Floyd to jump back into Top Rank. Manny don't ask any fighters to join Top Rank. That's old man Bob. Bob's a fool. Floyd is known as a villian because he painted that picture for us through actions, the same can be said with Pac as the good guy. Tough reality, but that's what it is. I still love my boy Floyd though.

                  Still you're missing the big picture. It's alright to recruit boxers into the stable. But WTF is Floyd trying to do by recruiting a boxer like Pacman who's supposed to be his opponent & who already has his own promotion? Go Figure??!!
                  Last edited by PennyAnd1; 10-24-2013, 10:00 PM.

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                  • AllBoxingAD
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                    #339
                    I will never forget that 4 years ago, Pac's fans tried to convince everyone that ADDITIONAL TESTING WAS NOT NEEDED AND BAD FOR THE SPORT.

                    Im still not over the ******ity of it all.

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                    • apokalips
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                      #340
                      Good that he has finally seen sense but why now? This is a slap in the face to boxing fans because for years we heard how it was supposedly shocking for Floyd to ask for OSDT etc and Pacs team continued to make a mockery of it all and now just like that he comes out and says what he should have been saying originally to the demand?

                      I like Pacquiao as a fighter but he should be publicly criticized for the way he has conducted himself with the whole testing issue just like Ward needs to be

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