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  • #41
    Originally posted by PBP View Post
    LOL. Ah..Bitter Donaire fan.
    did you just pull this specualtion out of your ass or did you do a background check? lol

    but seriously, is what i said a lie? have you seen the actual numbers?(seperating the power-punches and jabs)

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    • #42
      I have no idea why people found Rigo-Donaire boring. I thought it was one of the most thrilling fights in years. Kept me on the edge of my seat the entire match. Also, Donaire gets booed in all his fights because he is a headhunter. Donaire is not an exciting fighter.

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      • #43
        All Arum is saying is 'I want Rigaundeaux to get hit more often'. What a load of bull. Rigaundeaux is a perfect fighter and more fighters need to emulate him. I hope he doesnt feel pressurised to start fighting like a slugger.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by simms601 View Post
          Arum is a dirtbag, but people are clearly missing what he's saying here. HBO doesn't want to put Rigo on because of his last performance. It's clearly going to be a difficult job for Arum to get Rigo televised fights on HBO if they don't want to pay to watch him fight. Arum can't MAKE HBO put Rigo on their network. For the boxing fan, Rigo performance was a masterpiece, for the millions of HBO subscribers, the ***** was boring and no one wanted to watch him. Yes, the boxing fans are going to praise Rigo, but do you think HBO for a second gives a ***** about what the boxing public feels? No! If it's going to hurt their ratings to put Rigo on, then their not going to do it. Why do you think they went out and got a familiar name in Agbeko to fight him? Had they brought in Joe Blow, the ***** would likely be on ESPN.
          Exactly. It is not like Bob dislikes Rigo, but Rigo also has to generate money, not just collect a big paycheck and not give in return.

          This goes for anything in business. You may have a great product, that is expensive to produce. If you cannot generate sales for that product, it is something that will be shelved unless either you start selling much more of that product or cut the costs.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya View Post
            All Arum is saying is 'I want Rigaundeaux to get hit more often'. What a load of bull. Rigaundeaux is a perfect fighter and more fighters need to emulate him. I hope he doesnt feel pressurised to start fighting like a slugger.
            It could be, but he wants him to be more offensive. HBO pay the money. Rigo probably can't sell seats to keep his purse let alone all the other costs (If he matches the payday VS Donaire)

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Kris Silver View Post
              It's dangerous waters when a promoter is openly talking about the need for a fighter to fight in a certain way.

              You are the promoter. He is the boxer. You do what you do. Let him do the sport he does and knows best and in the way that keeps him from not getting hit, hitting the other guy, and more importantly...winning.
              Yes but the product also has to sell, otherwise what is the point? Arum, like any promoter, would like nothing more than for Rigo to become a PPV star, because if he does, everyone profits from it. But to become one, the product has to be in demand. Rigo is not attractive to the casual fan and not in demand. He still wants top dollar though. Who will want to dish out money and not get a return?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
                I have no idea why people found Rigo-Donaire boring. I thought it was one of the most thrilling fights in years. Kept me on the edge of my seat the entire match. Also, Donaire gets booed in all his fights because he is a headhunter. Donaire is not an exciting fighter.
                Exactly! One thing about Boxing Scene posters is these dudes have a short memory. This site was so hype when that fight happened. Go read the round by round thread. It was an exciting fight! But now people are trying to spin it and say it was a boring fight or Rigo stunk it up. They were booing Donaire! Especially when he started running! They even booed him during the post-fight interview when he acted like a spoiled brat and didn't want to give Rigo props. And it's happened a few times in his fights. They expect him to be this KO artist and when he doesn't deliver and has to go the full 12 the crowd boos him. Just look at some of his fights.

                Rigo embarrassed Donaire and in impressive fashion. He was more offensive the entire fight. Bob and HBO are just mad that their next Filipino cash cow got beat and it killed their momentum. They were building Donaire up to be the next great Filipino fighter after Manny and Rigo derailed the gravy train. It is what it is. And Rigo is getting flack for it. Unbelievable.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                  Actually, its Goodman's job to research and select potential opponents who will make rigo look good and its ARum's job to promote the fight and get him TV dates. Rigo shouldn't have to change his style to get TR to do their job properly.
                  No, If Rigo does not generate buzz, he will not garner further interest. It's not about who he faces, it's about him marketing himself. If he is not exciting, he will not get TV dates. He has the capability of being more exciting. If he is not in his next fight, it is over for him getting major network/cable TV dates. It is what it is. Do what you have always done and you get what you've always gotten so Rigo only has to make small adjustments to his game. He can blow guys out of there easily if he wants. His body punches are crippling and he hurts and drops guys with head shots. He can make his style more appealing with small changes. No one is asking him to be wreckless. It's not about selecting opponents that make him look good....he has to fight the best now and the best comes in different styles. It is up to him work with the different styles he will be faced with in a manner that draws a buzz.
                  Last edited by richardt; 10-21-2013, 11:47 AM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                    Yes but the product also has to sell, otherwise what is the point? Arum, like any promoter, would like nothing more than for Rigo to become a PPV star, because if he does, everyone profits from it. But to become one, the product has to be in demand. Rigo is not attractive to the casual fan and not in demand. He still wants top dollar though. Who will want to dish out money and not get a return?
                    In boxing, you generate interest in and build your product through favorable matchmaking. Especially with a counter puncher. Instead of criticizing him in the public, how about matching him up with WV2, Arce and Darchinyan style opponents. That's how they built Donaire up. He got fed guys that walk straight into his left hook and he supposedly became a "superstar".

                    And he "wants top dollar' because Top Rank signed him to a lucrative multi-fight deal with a high minimum. If they feel they can't promote him properly and give him proper matchmaking let him go to ShowTime. Stephen Espinoza said he wants him back on their network.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                      Yes but the product also has to sell, otherwise what is the point? Arum, like any promoter, would like nothing more than for Rigo to become a PPV star, because if he does, everyone profits from it. But to become one, the product has to be in demand. Rigo is not attractive to the casual fan and not in demand. He still wants top dollar though. Who will want to dish out money and not get a return?
                      I don't think I can say it better than ferrari has above me there.

                      But Rigo isn't that bad, I find him good to watch and lots seem to. In-fact I wasn't that fond of Donaire so HBO have gained rather than lost. For all they know with time, how do they know that won't become the general case?

                      Regardless, Arum, HBO all knew how Rigo fights. It's no surprise and he gained some fans beating whom was the top dog at the weight. OK Donaire's stock went down. But you don't reward someone for an impressive win, by not taking advantage of one mans stock's growing as a result of winning, standing by idly all confused wasting everyones time.

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