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  • #51
    Hey arum, he's a defensive fighter, know who else is? The #1 p4p fighter yet he's making 50mils per fight. True boxing fan appriciate the sweet science and the fact that he could make a fighter like donaire look ******. Floyd wasn't a super star until he beat both de la hoya and Hatton. If rigo keeps beating these top fighters with ease, is your job as the promoter to get the networks and fans dying to see him again

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    • #52
      clearly the uneducated, mainly floyd fans who support golden girls spouting rubbish about a better promotion company are missing the point


      you listen to arum this is a guy who has built the biggest ppv stars, oscar, floyd, manny, cotto and so on, all top rank, not golden girls, he knows what it takes

      what he is saying is simple, hbo want entertainment, so throw a bit more punches and try to get knockouts, if rigo does that, the buzz builds, he can revert back to his normal style once he is the word of mouth

      arum is simply saying what hbo wants, not him

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      • #53
        Originally posted by richardt View Post
        No, If Rigo does not generate buzz, he will not garner further interest. It's not about who he faces, it's about him marketing himself. If he is not exciting, he will not get TV dates. He has the capability of being more exciting. If he is not in his next fight, it is over for him getting major network/cable TV dates. It is what it is. Do what you have always done and you get what you've always gotten so Rigo only has to make small adjustments to his game. He can blow guys out of there easily if he wants. His body punches are crippling and he hurts and drops guys with head shots. He can make his style more appealing with small changes. No one is asking him to be wreckless. It's not about selecting opponents that make him look good....he has to fight the best now and the best comes in different styles. It is up to him work with the different styles he will be faced with in a manner that draws a buzz.
        Come on man, don't give Goodman and Arum a pass on failing to to do their jobs. Yes, finding opponents and marketing Rigo is challenging and difficult given his style and the language barrier. But they knew this when they signed rigo. Its on TR to do what Rigo hired them to do.

        It seems as if you are saying its on rigo to do the job of a promoter and a matchmaker to sustain his career? I am sure he can fight "the best" without changing his style. He just did that with Nonito.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
          Hey arum, he's a defensive fighter, know who else is? The #1 p4p fighter yet he's making 50mils per fight. True boxing fan appriciate the sweet science and the fact that he could make a fighter like donaire look ******. Floyd wasn't a super star until he beat both de la hoya and Hatton. If rigo keeps beating these top fighters with ease, is your job as the promoter to get the networks and fans dying to see him again
          true boxing fans?

          god will you people stop using that, clearly by your post you are foolish dude

          true boxing fans do not make floyd 50m per year, they would make him 5m at most per fights, its the casuals, floyd did it by spouting trash and pretending like he fought the best

          rigo cannot do that, the others which again top rank build, oscar and manny did it in the ring

          you need to educate yourself boy, top rank makes ppv stars, they know what they are talking about, the past PROVES it, I love how you are telling arum how to do his job while you are sitting on your ass and arum is planning his next ppv star after making oscar, floyd and manny. clearly you have a business promoting talent not used lol

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          • #55
            Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
            clearly the uneducated, mainly floyd fans who support golden girls spouting rubbish about a better promotion company are missing the point


            you listen to arum this is a guy who has built the biggest ppv stars, oscar, floyd, manny, cotto and so on, all top rank, not golden girls, he knows what it takes

            what he is saying is simple, hbo want entertainment, so throw a bit more punches and try to get knockouts, if rigo does that, the buzz builds, he can revert back to his normal style once he is the word of mouth

            arum is simply saying what hbo wants, not him
            Arum doesn't work for HBO he works for Nonito. TR's job is to find fighters that can give rigo a good fight and get him TV dates.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Kris Silver View Post
              I don't think I can say it better than ferrari has above me there.

              But Rigo isn't that bad, I find him good to watch and lots seem to. In-fact I wasn't that fond of Donaire so HBO have gained rather than lost. For all they know with time, how do they know that won't become the general case?

              Regardless, Arum, HBO all knew how Rigo fights. It's no surprise and he gained some fans beating whom was the top dog at the weight. OK Donaire's stock went down. But you don't reward someone for an impressive win, by not taking advantage of one mans stock's growing as a result of winning, standing by idly all confused wasting everyones time.
              I actually like Rigo, but if Arum cannot sell him easily to a network, Rigo has to play the part also. Where is Rigo's management team? Why are they dead between fights. Every Cog wheel has to work. Remember Arum is only a part promoter in all this. Where is his other promotional team? What are they doing?

              The boxing game, like any other product, cannot sell on ability alone. They need something to capture imaginations. Rigo is partly responsible and has to sell himself also somehow.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                Come on man, don't give Goodman and Arum a pass on failing to to do their jobs. Yes, finding opponents and marketing Rigo is challenging and difficult given his style and the language barrier. But they knew this when they signed rigo. Its on TR to do what Rigo hired them to do.

                It seems as if you are saying its on rigo to do the job of a promoter and a matchmaker to sustain his career? I am sure he can fight "the best" without changing his style. He just did that with Nonito.
                No one is giving them a pass but don't think for one second that if Rigo is not exciting in his next fight that everyone and the networks will be clamoring to get him back on TV. That is not reality! And it is not about finding opponents....he can no longer just fight "opponents"! He HAS TO fight the best which comes in all styles and has to look good against the best to remain marketable. It cannot be any more simple than that. And he knows this, evidenced by the article. Otherwise, it is back to ESPN or doing a world tour against local products overseas who will put up money for him to go into their home country / Hometown to defend against the local favorite.
                Last edited by richardt; 10-21-2013, 12:09 PM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by PBP View Post
                  In boxing, you generate interest in and build your product through favorable matchmaking. Especially with a counter puncher. Instead of criticizing him in the public, how about matching him up with WV2, Arce and Darchinyan style opponents. That's how they built Donaire up. He got fed guys that walk straight into his left hook and he supposedly became a "superstar".

                  And he "wants top dollar' because Top Rank signed him to a lucrative multi-fight deal with a high minimum. If they feel they can't promote him properly and give him proper matchmaking let him go to ShowTime. Stephen Espinoza said he wants him back on their network.
                  Does a guy like Arce have any interest in facing Rigo? Probably not. Heck even Vic would rather take another route. Same for WV2, who's also shown against Donaire he'll go defensive and wait for opportunities. Probably less open than Marroquin or Agbeko. Fact is, Arum has done an amazing job for Rigo, insensitive talk notwithstanding.

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                  • #59
                    Rigo will respond by waving to the crowd on the way to the ring

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                    • #60
                      Floyd, years ago, did many things to improve his profile and get his name out there. It worked. Floyd knew himself that his Style of fighting would not appeal to everyone, so he created a Niche for himself. He became Brash and created different personas. He knew it would get people to sit in their seats and watch regardless.

                      Floyd sold himself. He got his name out there. He now makes 40 Million per fight for doing what he did. That my friends, is a true salesman.

                      Rigo has to do the same thing. It does not really matter what he does, but he has to make people interested in sitting down to watch him.

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