Ward refuses to participate in VADA testing

[Frank Ducketts]

vada is about as associated to conte as usada is to heredia

actually believe it to be more so

Why do you believe this?

[SplitSecond]

Why do you believe this?

what? it's well publicized heredia and conte are just advisors/informants due to the history they have


although heredia might be more to usada, but i can't remember the details

[Frank Ducketts]

what? it's a fact, heredia and conte are just advisors/informants

although heredia might be more to usada, but i can't remember the details

You mean right now?

[SplitSecond]

You mean right now?

http://www.boxingscene.com/vada-interview-part-3-releasing-results-contes-role--56816

usada uses wada labs(as does vada)
wada president also asked for conte's advise

so conte is in bed with wada as much as he is with vada, and if he's in there with wada then he's in halfway with usada

oohhh...now you can't trust anything, this also basically proves floyds a cheat right? since he uses usada, that uses wada, who that con man prick conte works with, what now? gonna jump a bridge?

[MikeRo1972]

NSAC, WADA, USADA I would do.

VADA can kiss my ass.

When VADA is disassociated from Conte totally, and they might be as of today, don't know...but when they do disassociate from that dirty ass, con man...then I'd think about using VADA.

That clown thought that nobody used CIR testing, lmao.

WADA doesn't test. They just provide guidance/protocol

[PACnPBFsuck]

vada is about as associated to conte as usada is to heredia

actually believe it to be more so

also conte is the one getting his fighters to be pro testing

Conte helped build VADA, Hereida didn't help build USADA.

[MikeRo1972]

First, VADA only performs year-round testing for one athlete -- Nonito Donaire. USADA peforms year-round testing for hundreds of athletes (mostly Olympic). USADA and VADA are essentially the same thing, including many of their protocols. The main difference between the two is just cost.

And both organizations have slipped in the past as far as testing in boxing, but their errors are understandable. And after each 'mistake' there was always an immediate adjustment (for both organizations). Neither organization is going to be flawless all the time. I'm not one of those Conte puppets that believes and follows anything coming out of his mouth about drug testing.

They use the same labs yes but their testing ratios are different as is their reporting protocol. VADA's ratios are more stringent and they don't adjust their reporting protocols to suit promotors. Also, USADA charges 5x more for the exact same tests as VADA. And it's not because of overhead that's BS. Ask your self why a promotors would be willing to pay south more for the same tests.

Look, these are simply facts. People can choose to look the other way if they desire and pick a side but they can't make up your own facts.

[SplitSecond]

Conte helped build VADA, Hereida didn't help build USADA.

he was one of their advisors as they were getting things started

as was **** pound and don catlin

a company has to start somewhere

heredia could have told usada something they didn't know and thus they grew better at going about their jobs

if so heredia helped as much as conte

[Hurtin-Bombs]

he was one of their advisors as they were getting things started

as was **** pound and don catlin

a company has to start somewhere

heredia could have told usada something they didn't know and thus they grew better at going about their jobs

if so heredia helped as much as conte

this is absolutely NOTHING but speculation. its fact that Conte helped build VADA and is still associated with them to this day.

[SplitSecond]

this is absolutely NOTHING but speculation. its fact that Conte helped build VADA and is still associated with them to this day.

an example to get my point across

if heredia or any other ped supplier turned informant told a cheater catching company the things they should look out for and how cheaters bypass the testing etc, is that not helping build the company? ofcourse im sure usada was already well established

got an article or something saying conte is not just used as an advisor here and there but actually has a place in vada?