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  • Originally posted by MikeRo1972 View Post
    Ducketts and RadioRaheem: you are on an island when it comes to VADA. Their 24/7/365 tests and protocol IS the standard. I won't even get into all the protocols, ratios, and chain of command issues where USADA fails, Period, end of story. You choose to continue to spout diarrhea about VADA and in the end all you do is make yourself sound foolish and ignorant. You do it at your own behest. Do a little research fellas.
    First, VADA only performs year-round testing for one athlete -- Nonito Donaire. USADA peforms year-round testing for hundreds of athletes (mostly Olympic). USADA and VADA are essentially the same thing, including many of their protocols. The main difference between the two is just cost.

    And both organizations have slipped in the past as far as testing in boxing, but their errors are understandable. And after each 'mistake' there was always an immediate adjustment (for both organizations). Neither organization is going to be flawless all the time. I'm not one of those Conte puppets that believes and follows anything coming out of his mouth about drug testing.
    Last edited by radioraheem; 10-18-2013, 10:13 PM.

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    • Angel heredia@Guruscience 9h Andre ward just getting tested? You ****ing joking? 4 weeks toward fight week? Another conte's athlete not getting properly tested?


      Victor Conte@VictorConte 9h
      @guruscience Get a clue. I haven't worked with Ward in over 4 years. Are you & your lil crew clear now?


      They are fighting about it on Twitter also!LOL

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      • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
        First, VADA only performs year-round testing for one athlete -- Nonito Donaire. USADA peforms year-round testing for hundreds of athletes (mostly Olympic). USADA and VADA are essentially the same thing, including many of their protocols. The main difference between the two is just cost.

        And both organizations have slipped in the past as far as testing in boxing, but their errors are understandable. And after each 'mistake' there was always an immediate adjustment (for both organizations). Neither organization is going to be flawless all the time. I'm not one of those Conte puppets that believes and follows anything coming out of his mouth about drug testing.
        No you're a Mayweather puppet and a African puppet.

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        • Originally posted by MoneyMayFan View Post
          **** ward. When he went against his own people to openly root for robert guerrero, he lost respect from me
          Originally posted by MoneyMayFan View Post
          Thats whats wrong with our community (blacks). We dont support our own. We rather see them fail. Ward is a lame as far as im concerned.

          Oh Lawdy..........

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          • Originally posted by OJ Simpson View Post
            No you're a Mayweather puppet and a African puppet.
            How so? Enlighten us. Mayweather has nothing to do with the discussion. Yet you bring him up.

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            • Originally posted by deanrw View Post
              Angel heredia@Guruscience 9h Andre ward just getting tested? You ****ing joking? 4 weeks toward fight week? Another conte's athlete not getting properly tested?


              Victor Conte@VictorConte 9h
              @guruscience Get a clue. I haven't worked with Ward in over 4 years. Are you & your lil crew clear now?


              They are fighting about it on Twitter also!LOL


              Yo, Conte blasts Memo everyday, religiously. He hates him so much, I wonder what Memo did to him that no one knows about. It's like a daily ritual. Then every now and then Memo blasts back in retaliation, which only encourages Conte.

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              • Ward is juicing and marquez too.

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                • Originally posted by FeFist View Post
                  The above is hiding behind the image of 'being a professional athlete'. In the present climate everyone knows that the standard drug testing are woefully inadequate, a fighter with integrity and nothing to hide would simply take the test. If they're truly clean then the additional drug testing will not have an effect on the nature of their contract, this actually contrasts things like people missing weight- which can funnily enough take place in spite of the fact that one fighter holds an advantage.

                  Also you argue that Floyd, Donaire and Pacquiao put in their contract? I wonder what those fighters have in common...... I know, they were all the big draw going into their fights. If Rodriguez asked for additional testing going into the fight, he would have been told to fuck off.
                  A fighter with integrity would ask for random testing during the negotiations, not at the press conference. Clean or not, if there was no agreement behind close doors and your opponent just asks for it in public, he's playing games with you.

                  Floyd wasn't a much bigger draw than Pacquiao at the time, their PPV numbers were similar. Rodriguez could have asked for VADA testing and then dropped the demand if Ward refused, it wouldn't have necessarily killed the fight. You don't seem to understand how negotiations work, both parties always make a lot of demands and then they try to find a middle ground, just like Floyd and Canelo for the catch weight.

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                  • Originally posted by h2k View Post
                    Ward is juicing and marquez too.
                    Marquez takes the test, ward refused 3 times already.

                    Everytime Marquez was asked he was willing whenever.

                    Ward, says no 3 times.

                    Dont compare them you make your self look dumb.

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                    • Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                      A fighter with integrity would ask for random testing during the negotiations, not at the press conference. Clean or not, if there was no agreement behind close doors and your opponent just asks for it in public, he's playing games with you.
                      He's not playing games though, Rodriguez is doing the testing. It was offered to Ward free of charge and he turned it down - again. A fighter with integrity would have said no problem, or sought out his own testing. Even if he didn't want to do VADA he could have done USADA or whatever, but yet again he's not taking any and that's the story of this fight now unfortunately.

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