Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Adviser Devalues Bradley For "Boring" Win

[The Big Dunn]

I think after Bradley two fights this yr,and depending on Pac's fight and how he looks with Rios..I think a rematch could do about 800k to 1mill buys..Pac is still a draw,and with the possibility that he could stop Bradley out there,or Bradley could outbox Manny..Fans and haters a like will tune in to watch this fight..

Ok. I don't know. I assume manny is still a draw, but I don't know if tim/manny 2 sells that much. Outside of the pac fans who will buy it just to see manny get a decision-why would non manny fans buy it? what is gonna change from the 1st fight?

The reality is most thought manny won easily, despite losing the last 3-4 rounds. I can't see a reason to buy a rematch. I would simply assume the judges will score it correctly this time.

[Rome-By-Ko]

It wasn't as much of a rout, but when you have more 11-1 than all "close" scores combined (going both ways), that's also a rout.

My point is,I really don't care how what % scored the fight..I can only talk boxing based off what I saw(and that's with any fight,not just this one),I never talk compubox,or ringside scorers..

The only thing that's important is what I see(in your case what you see)and the judges decision..

I seen a close fight,obviously you seen a fight that was not so one sided as well..You've acknowledge that Pac Bradley was not like Pac Cotto Pac Mosley and Pac Clottey etc etc..It was a good fight that was spoiled tbh by rotten commentating..

Pwill vs Lara was a brutal beating dude,so bad that people were scared for Pwill safety..Do you even remember that fight??People were scared for Paul in
there bro..The fact that that fight was as close as the Pac Bradley fight already let's me know to trust my eyes..Not the ringside scorer..

[The Big Dunn]

why are you getting so butthurt about the award? LOL. do you understand what fighter of the decade means? 2000-2009. lets compare:

floyd: corrales, castillo, judah, oscar, hatton, jmm

pac: barerra, jmm, morales, oscar, hatton, cotto

its fair to see why they gave the edge to pac. whats the controversy? what you are whining about is floyd being considered the best fighter of the era, and the fact that maybe some people dont agree with you.

IMO, its a tough choice... easy answer is floyd, he is still undefeated and is performing at the top of his game. although, pac made a bigger splash and it was a frenzy while it lasted, he put the excitement back in boxing.

i think floyd's retirement cost him the award not necessarily individual bias from voters.

[hugh grant]

The only way Bradley deserves a Pac rematch is if he admits he lost to Pac and would like to avenge his loss to Pac.

Bradley should also state the reason he lost so decisively to Pac is because he broke his ankle and couldn't attack Pac like he claimed he was going to do before the fight.

[waxfondler]

Actually, the only thing that slightly annoys me is dicussing Manny Pacquiao with folks like yourelf that didn't even know he existed until 4-5yrs ago. Yet act like a goddamn expert on his career based on what some talking head said. Or what you researched on boxrec and youtube.

not really. i was obsessed with winky & b-hop. i HATED pac when he first appeared on the scene. i thought he was primitive and sloppy.... i was actually a fan of floyd first. i never thought pac would EVER be mentioned in the same sentence as floyd.... well guess what? pac did some amazing things... things that you guys claim was due to PEDs, match-making, weight-draining, etc.... which only proves the fact of how good the guy really was. i honestly think floyd beats pac... but pac had a window of opportunity where he couldve beaten floyd.... he missed the window. and the rest is history.

ive bashed floyd numerous time for his antics but never his talent. ive also criticized pac for his choice of opponents and bogus 8 division belt.... so tell me more about folks like me?

[HeroBando]

My point is,I really don't care how what % scored the fight..I can only talk boxing based off what I saw(and that's with any fight,not just this one),I never talk compubox,or ringside scorers..

The only thing that's important is what I see(in your case what you see)and the judges decision..

I seen a close fight,obviously you seen a fight that was not so one sided as well..You've acknowledge that Pac Bradley was not like Pac Cotto Pac Mosley and Pac Clottey etc etc..It was a good fight that was spoiled tbh by rotten commentating..

Pwill vs Lara was a brutal beating dude,so bad that people were scared for Pwill safety..Do you even remember that fight??People were scared for Paul in
there bro..The fact that that fight was as close as the Pac Bradley fight already let's me know to trust my eyes..Not the ringside scorer..

Yeah it was a closer fight than most of those, including Cotto, Marg, Clottey. Doesn't make it a close fight, nor necessarily harder. Marg was harder for sure, and even Clottey him Pac harder and more cleanly.

A draw can be brutal on either or both guys, doesn't mean it wasn't close. Not that PWill Lara was close, it wasn't, but far from a shutout. PWill ate a lot of clean punches from a superior technician, like you'd expect, but never went down and hit Lara plenty, check out the crazy hematoma.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Ok. I don't know. I assume manny is still a draw, but I don't know if tim/manny 2 sells that much. Outside of the pac fans who will buy it just to see manny get a decision-why would non manny fans buy it? what is gonna change from the 1st fight?

The reality is most thought manny won easily, despite losing the last 3-4 rounds. I can't see a reason to buy a rematch. I would simply assume the judges will score it correctly this time.

I can't call it,I'm very interested in a rematch..I'm a fan of both fighters,so it's a win win for me..I see what ya saying,but I still think there will be interest in this fight..A bit of the unknown as well,eps if Pac shows up crazy like he was in the Pac marquez 4 fight..I'd love to see Pac fight and take more risk then he did in the first fight..Which I think will be the case in this fight..

[waxfondler]

i think floyd's retirement cost him the award not necessarily individual bias from voters.

EXACTLY... thats my point. alot of the grief floyd & his fans suffer is self-inflicted.

simply put, pac caught floyd sleeping and swooped in for the kill. floyd cant get mad that pac out-hustled him. no need to discredit pac's work either. he EARNED it.

if floyd didnt retire and fought when the 147 division was hot, there might not be a debate.

[The Big Dunn]

EXACTLY... thats my point. alot of the grief floyd & his fans suffer is self-inflicted.

simply put, pac caught floyd sleeping and swooped in for the kill. floyd cant get mad that pac out-hustled him. no need to discredit pac's work either. he EARNED it.

if floyd didnt retire and fought when the 147 division was hot, there might not be a debate.

The retirement provided a valid reason to vote for someone else. If floyd had a different persona at the time I don't think retiring would've affected the voting as much. Bhop also had as good a case as manny.

But I agree floyd can only blame himself.

[waxfondler]

The retirement provided a valid reason to vote for someone else. If floyd had a different persona at the time I don't think retiring would've affected the voting as much. Bhop also had as good a case as manny.

But I agree floyd can only blame himself.

oh man, dont get me started on b-hop. i wouldve voted for b-hop to get FOTD in a heartbeat. haha, but we all knew it was about pac/floyd