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  • HeroBando
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    #111
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    Thats not me. I remember the BWAA award. I just like reminding pac fans like you that he lost the FOTD belt to JMM. I know it doesn't change the award.
    So why respond to the post where I bolded BWAA with "didn't he lose that crap to Marquez"? You here to waste my time?

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    • waxfondler
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      #112
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      I think earning a draw after 3 1st round KD's, then having the majority think you won the 3rd fight is success.

      JMM is the only fighter pac fought who had the counterpunching skill to take advanatge of those mistakes. its not surprising to knowledgeable fans that non counterpunchers couldn't take advantage.

      Pac didn't take any risks, he fought the same way he always does-it works better against bigger, slower, less skilled opponents. If manny had kept his hands up or had better balance at that point the punch doesn't land. Its his fault that he hasn't fixed this flaw. I don't know how that is fighting emotionally.

      He just made some mistakes. its ok to admit it.
      of course jmm DIDNT taste success before the KO. why do you think he was so butthurt???? if you want to jump on the bandwagon of "jmm beat pac 4 times" then so be it... i guess youre on the "jmm beat tim" bandwagon too??? or do you not believe him now? how convenient.

      listen, it pains me to talk to such biased posters... ive praised both pac and floyd when deserved, ive also criticized them.... but when any positive pac statement gets flagged as pac-fanboyism, i just shake my head....

      pac lost to bradley.... pac got KO'd by jmm.... why are you guys STILL unhappy???? HAHA. let it go.

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      • waxfondler
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        #113
        Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
        I'm a big Pac fan,have been for yrs..Let's keep it real tho,this sounds like Bradley was boxing well so let's put him down kinda thread right here..

        I was disappointed when Pac did not rematch Bradley the first fight,and fought Marquez instead..I'd still be disappointed if he did not fight Bradley now..He needs to right that wrong imo..Esp because Bradley beat Marquez,oh and he earn a t least 8 mill for the fight as well..If Pac offers Bradley anything less,imo it's a b1tch move and Pac really don't want the fight..
        i know bradley is your dude, but he got 8 mil for real???? haha

        i honestly think pac/tim II is on the way...

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        • MC Hammer
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          #114
          Originally posted by Tommy Gun
          He got the decisive win but he didn't fight JMM the way PAC fought JMM. Not knocking Bradley, he boxed him. PAC went to war with him each time. That's also why Pacs team is saying Tim was boring. It's like the Ruslan fight, Tim is only exciting when he's brawling. When he's boxing its not that great. Great for him cuz he's better off that way.
          Of course Pac didn't fight JMM the same way Bradley did, if he had there wouldn't have been 4 fights. Pac only fought him that way because he can not fight any other way.

          The reason they say he is boring is because they need a reason to either not fight him, or have a stronger negotiating stance.

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          • MC Hammer
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            #115
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Oh yeah? So why is Rios getting so much **** for Abril? He won, right?
            I'm sure Bradley gets a lot more flak for Pac than Rios for Abril. No one brought out judges to rescore Abril/Rios.

            Pac lost that's all there is to it

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            • Wynnin
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              #116
              Originally posted by AnKhang
              I don't understand the hate and the excuse when it was TB who first turned down PAC for a rematch.
              Actually Emanuel turned down the rematch first, I can tell you really don't follow the sport! Emanuel had a rematch clause that he choose not to take advantage of.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #117
                Originally posted by waxfondler
                of course jmm DIDNT taste success before the KO. why do you think he was so butthurt???? if you want to jump on the bandwagon of "jmm beat pac 4 times" then so be it... i guess youre on the "jmm beat tim" bandwagon too??? or do you not believe him now? how convenient.

                listen, it pains me to talk to such biased posters... ive praised both pac and floyd when deserved, ive also criticized them.... but when any positive pac statement gets flagged as pac-fanboyism, i just shake my head....

                pac lost to bradley.... pac got KO'd by jmm.... why are you guys STILL unhappy???? HAHA. let it go.
                I think we can see JMM cries robbery everytime he lost. No I don't think JMM beat manny 4 times. I never said pac lost to bradley either. No need to try and reshape my point or throw up a smokescreen to divert from my original point.

                I responded to your intial post because in it you suggested that manny lost in part because of a risk he took.

                Manny didn't take a risk while Bradley fought safe. He didn't fight any differently than he ever fights, there was just an opponent who could capitalize off his mistakes.They each fought the way they are best equipped.

                A risk is what Bradley took trying to out slug Provodnikov when he easily could've boxed and moved as he did before that fight and subsequently with JMM.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  So why respond to the post where I bolded BWAA with "didn't he lose that crap to Marquez"? You here to waste my time?
                  no, just a friendly reminder. You have to admit sometimes you "forget" things!

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                  • Porter's Dad
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                    #119
                    Pac vs Bradley would be interesting legacy wise. But c'mon, that fight is gonna suck. Pac can't cut off the ring and Tim will just glide around the ring volume jabbing again. It worked for the last quarter of their first fight and it worked for him during the JMM fight.

                    You really wanna see that?

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                    • MC Hammer
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                      Bradley turned down a rematch with Pacquiao originally, because he knows he got a gift in the first fight. He didn't want to risk a loss which would have knocked him back down the ladder. Look at his reaction when he heard that he had won against Manny. He was a little shocked! He nearly lost to a virtual unkown in Provodnikov. Rios would kill Bradley, because he just doesn't stop coming and Bradley won't be able to hurt him. He apparently figured out Marquez, but that's not too hard to do. Marquez is a counter-puncher, so how does one beat him? Don't give him anything to counter! Marquez did himself a disservice on 24/7 by telling how he beat Pacquiao. He said that he knows Manny lunges forward when he feints, so he just waited for the opportunity and struck with the right. His trainer Nacho also mentioned that they were worried about Manny's temper after the first knockdown. He went after Marquez after that, which opened him up for a counter. Of course, Bradley paid attention to all of this information, and used it well. He may have won, but he still only pulled off a split decision against a 40 year old JMM. Pacquiao is better off fighting other fighters right now, to get his mojo back. He wouldn't look good against a non-hungry, over-cautious Bradley. If he is successful against Rios (which is a tough match after a K.O. loss) and one or two more fights, a rematch with Desert Shower will no doubt happen.
                      Bradley wanted the rematch immediately after the fight, Pac went to Cotto then Marquez. He didn't want it since "the world knew he won anyway"

                      Rios would kill Bradley? Okay I can't find anyone outside of Garcia's gym besides yourself who believe that.

                      If figuring out Marquez was so easy why hasn't Pac in 4 tries? I mean he should be completely dominating this guy by now.

                      And the last one says it all. You're pretty much admitting Pac needs someone to come straight at him to do anything or look good

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