Why does Lederman always have to exaggerate with his scorecards?

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  • -Kev-
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    Why does Lederman always have to exaggerate with his scorecards?

    He had JMM-Bradley wide for Bradley, having Bradley like 9-1 at one point if I remember correctly. He said things like "Pretty easy to score", despite the mid rounds having little to no fighter being dominant.

    The fight was easy to score yet there's an awful lot of fans who had it close like 115-113, and some having it a draw(like me). Plus, two professional judges who really don't have corruption tied to their names, Robert Hoyle (2013: 114-112 for Garcia-Matthysse, 85-84 Lara-Angulo, 115-111 Abril-Bogere) had it 115-113 for Bradley, and Glenn Feldman (113-115 Malignaggi-Broner, 84-87 Burns-Gonzalez[Had Gonzalez winning at time of stoppage]) had it 113-115 for Marquez.

    Yet the fight was easy to score? HE also had Bradley-Pacquiao awfully wide, which also close. I feel that casual fans watching HBO would easily get ****** into Lederman's scorecard and take it as gospel, they are an exaggeration.

    You can say Lederman has forgotten more about boxing than I will ever learn, but I think one of the things he forgot is how to score close fights.
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    #2
    Originally posted by -Kev-
    He had JMM-Bradley wide for Bradley, having Bradley like 9-1 at one point if I remember correctly. He said things like "Pretty easy to score", despite the mid rounds having little to no fighter being dominant.

    The fight was easy to score yet there's an awful lot of fans who had it close like 115-113, and some having it a draw(like me). Plus, two professional judges who really don't have corruption tied to their names, Robert Hoyle (2013: 114-112 for Garcia-Matthysse, 85-84 Lara-Angulo, 115-111 Abril-Bogere) had it 115-113 for Bradley, and Glenn Feldman (113-115 Malignaggi-Broner, 84-87 Burns-Gonzalez[Had Gonzalez winning at time of stoppage]) had it 113-115 for Marquez.

    Yet the fight was easy to score? HE also had Bradley-Pacquiao awfully wide, which also close. I feel that casual fans watching HBO would easily get ****** into Lederman's scorecard and take it as gospel, they are an exaggeration.

    You can say Lederman has forgotten more about boxing than I will ever learn, but I think one of the things he forgot is how to score close fights.
    Pac-Bradley wasn't close.

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    • ( . Y . )
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      #3
      He's horrible and just mailing it in at this point. Another example of someone once good at the their job who got old and just does enough to get by.

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      • -PBP-
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        #4
        He had it 117-111 which was perfectly reasonable. A competitive fight can be wide on points because of the way boxing is scored.

        The only round I disagree with on Lederman's card was round 4 which was clearly a Marquez round. Other than that he was on point.


        People ***** about Lederman but I would take him and his daughter over 95% of the judges in boxing today.

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        • KeepItObjective
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          #5


          It was easy to score, only the butthurt Marquez fans like to make out that he's getting robbed in every fight he loses, sore butthurt losers.

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          • T18Z
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            #6
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            He had JMM-Bradley wide for Bradley, having Bradley like 9-1 at one point if I remember correctly. He said things like "Pretty easy to score", despite the mid rounds having little to no fighter being dominant.

            The fight was easy to score yet there's an awful lot of fans who had it close like 115-113, and some having it a draw(like me). Plus, two professional judges who really don't have corruption tied to their names, Robert Hoyle (2013: 114-112 for Garcia-Matthysse, 85-84 Lara-Angulo, 115-111 Abril-Bogere) had it 115-113 for Bradley, and Glenn Feldman (113-115 Malignaggi-Broner, 84-87 Burns-Gonzalez[Had Gonzalez winning at time of stoppage]) had it 113-115 for Marquez.

            Yet the fight was easy to score? HE also had Bradley-Pacquiao awfully wide, which also close. I feel that casual fans watching HBO would easily get ****** into Lederman's scorecard and take it as gospel, they are an exaggeration.

            You can say Lederman has forgotten more about boxing than I will ever learn, but I think one of the things he forgot is how to score close fights.
            It wasn't close, you think Marquez vs Bradley and Pacquaio vs Bradley are both draws, your opinion is close to worthless and invalid, you are biased, end of. You are complaining because people don't share your dumb opinion/

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            • Bigg Rigg
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              #7
              Idk how u had that fight a draw. There's just now way. 8-4 the worst for Tim.

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              • Bernard_Hopkins
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                i never watched the hbo event.... and i agree lederman is often way off... in saying that his scorecard was identical to mine.

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                  Are you by any chance related to C J Ross?

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                  • Da Machine
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by T18Z
                    It wasn't close, you think Marquez vs Bradley and Pacquaio vs Bradley are both draws, your opinion is close to worthless and invalid, you are biased, end of. You are complaining because people don't share your dumb opinion/
                    A lot of people had it close. I had it a draw.

                    I gave Marquez, 1, 3, 5, 6, 10, 12

                    1 was clear and close, same with 3.

                    5, 6 depends how ou score fights. Bradley worked the jab well, but between the two rounds threw like 10power shots, and landed maybe 1, while Marquez landed some good shots here and there.

                    10 Marquez controlled it and stunned Bradley slightly.

                    12 Marquez dominated. Bradley didn't do anything as he thought he had it in the bag. I completely disagree with Kellerman that one big shot for Bradle in the last second seals the rd, making everything Marquez did irrelevant. What an idiot. He even went as far as to say you are an incompetent judge if you disagree.

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